[Guide, Camps, Roster] What camps to run, and for how long, often depends on your roster

[Gryphonknight]

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[Guide, Camps, Roster] What camps to run, and for how long, often depends on your roster

Uncommon training

Unfortunately, Empires is designed around the IAP summons.

This means Uncommon training ( RT02 ) is currently the best balance of Hero XP per hour, Food per Hero XP when leveling, Hero XP per recruit and Food per Hero XP when training.

Currently, kits/ backpacks are one of the most important items in Empires.

Season 2, Province 1 best for kits/ backpacks.

For lower level players, Season 1, Province 5, Stage 8 has very good kits/ backpacks but missing some 4* ingredients.

2.1-8H one of the two best for kits/ backpacks.
(Barry Farmz Here -- Comprehensive data driven farming guide for Season 3, Season 2, Season 1, Elemental Chests, Atlantis Rises, Missions, and more - #262 by BarryWuzHere)

Low cost training

Until you unlock Extra low cost training ( RT11 ), Low cost training ( RT04 ) is a great place to store recruits for later Legendary training ( RT20 ). See hoards below.

Extra low cost training

Extra low cost training ( RT11 ) is a great place to store recruits for later Legendary training ( RT20 ), and Uncommon ( RT02 ). See hoards below.

Extra low cost training ( RT11 ), is great for generating Hero XP when you are not in a hurry, short on food or short on kits/ backpacks.

It has the best Hero XP per recruit, and Food per Hero XP when training.

Training troops

For a good discussion of training TROOPS ( since Hero Academy does both ) see following link

(🤺 Using Hero Academy as a Troop Training Camp - #8 by yelnats_24)

Leveling heroes

As a general rule, always level with matching colors. ([Links, Links, Links] Discussions about leveling heroes- Updated 2018-Jun-06)

But this is a game, so have fun, if that is your play style ( Leveling: what's best strategy, on-color rainbow or one hero focus? - #26 by Gryphonknight)

Legendary recruit training

Running 2x or 3x Legendary training ( RT20 ) early is very important. Very good source of 4* heroes.

You cannot level heroes you do not have. ( yes, duplicates suck. Yes, camps are designed to get you to spend on IAP for summons ).

Big spenders only need Guaranteed rare ( RT12 ) for hoarding food. Super big spenders only need Extra low cost ( RT11 ) for hoarding recruits.

Color Stacking

4* 3.60, 4* 4.70 and 3* 3.50 heroes are good for color stacking.

Even when dead they improved your normal/ matching/ tile damage ( grave damage ).

@Gryphonknight

4* Heroes are the backbone of Empires. Forge level 17 is the backbone of class quests. But money is the backbone of 5* Heroes.

Color stacking

Color stacking, Empires hidden buff

@Gryphonknight

Double strong color, no weak color, teams==

Now that you have two rainbow teams ( one 3* 3.50 and one 4* 3.60 ) you can create double strong color, no weak color teams.

If you are attacking a Green Boss, then Red heroes are better because they are strong against green, so Green bosses takes double damage. The opposite is true of Blue heroes. Blue heroes cause half damage to a Green boss. The other colors ( Green, Purple & Yellow ) do neutral damage or no increase or decrease in damage.

When attacking a Green boss, remove your BLUE 4* 3.60 hero ( half damage against Green ) from your rainbow 4* 3.60 team, and replace it with your RED 3* 3.50 hero ( double damage against Green ) for a double red, no blue team.

You will do 1 HP of damage with blue matches/ board damage, since you are missing a Blue hero. But your two Red heroes will do double damage. Even if your Red 3* 3.50 hero dies against a Green boss, twice its attack stat will still be added when doing matching/ board/ physical damage.

==Weird color teams==

Other teams:

triple strong color,
quadruple strong color,
double neutral color,
double neutral three color teams and
single color teams.

Once you have more experience with rainbow teams and double strong color, no weak color teams, you can learn more about these weird alternatives.

==Elemental shields or Reflect color enemies==

When you fight an enemy with an elemental shield, it is weak to a color, strong to a color and REFLECTS a color. Example: A Reflect green boss takes double damage from Red heroes, half damage from Blue heroes, and reflects all damage from Green heroes back to that hero. So a triple red, no blue, no green team OR a double red, double yellow/ double purple, no blue no green team works better than a rainbow team. Example you can remove your Blue 4* 3.60 and Green 4* 3.60 heroes and replace them with one Red 3* 3.50 hero and one Purple/ Yellow 3* 3.50 hero.

So having a rainbow 3* 3.50 and a rainbow 4* 3.60 lets you take on Reflect color enemies until you level up a second rainbow 3* 3.50, second rainbow 4* 3.60, etc.

Food production

4* heroes take 26% the food of 5* heroes. So leveling 4* 3.60, and 4* 4.70 heroes, may be your best use of food until you have a decent 4* 3.60 / 4* 4.70 roster. ([Reference, Math] Food costs when Leveling 3* / 4* / 5* heroes [generic food comparison])

Some 5* 2.60, and 5* 3.70, heroes may be more useful than 4* 3.60, and 4* 4.70, heroes. Especially for class quests. (Domitia - my shiny new hero - #43 by Noble_Weasel)

Comparing 4* 4.70 to 5* 3.70 can be complicated. ( [Math] 4* 4.70 > 5* 3.70 > 4* 3.60 > 5* 2.60 > 3* 3.50 ( base stats and special skills ) or Comparison of Partially leveled heroes by rarity [More Math] )

Elder players

Common training

Leveling 5* heroes, try to avoid Common ( RT01 ) it uses 2.5x recruits of Extra fast ( RT19 ).

Extra fast training

Too much food?

Saving recruits?

Leveling a 5* 1.1 hero to 5* 4.80, with Extra fast ( RT19 ) uses approximately 1.9x food, and 0.73x recruits, of Uncommon ( RT02 ). ([Math] Advanced color training versus Extra Fast)

Extra fast ( RT19 ) is best used on 3* / 4* heroes, but can be used for 5* heroes. ([Discussion] Using item Hoards, Rugged clothes and Adventurer's kits, to level 3* / 4* / 5* heroes)

Advanced house

Advanced House level 9 / 10, can save you world energy depending on your situation. ([Math, Farming] Kit/ backpacks per day versus Advanced House Level 9 [More math, Math Apocalypse])

Hoarding

Hoarding food

([Math] Comparing Recruit training- Guaranteed rare vs Elite vs Legendary Training for food storage, XP and generating heroes [Hoarding, XP ])

Hoarding recruits and food

@Gryphonknight

TC11 Recruit bank
( The TC11 Recruit Bank )

Recruit & Food hoards
([Play style] Recruit (RT4/ RT11) & Food (RT13/ RT20) Hoards- Updated 4-14 )

Hoarding resources, Hero Academy

([Math] Hoarding resources in Training camps versus Hero Academy)

Guaranteed rare

While Elite training ( RT13 ) sounds tempting, even without VIP PASS, you will quickly unlock Legendary training ( RT20 ) which has a much better chance at 4* heroes ( 20% versus 3% to 5% ).

(Build Order - #8 by Gryphonknight)

Use Guaranteed rare ( RT12 ) to store food, and recruits, until you unlock Legendary training ( RT20 ). See above hoards.

Elite training

It is not wrong to use Elite training ( RT13 ), but with merciless RNG, it is not great.

The few people I know who got great 4* heroes from Elite training ( RT13 ), did not have the roster, 3* ascension items, food and Hero XP to level the 4* heroes before they unlocked Legendary training ( RT20 ).

Further reading

see also

([Guide] “Rage Quit and back again” or How I learned to stop worrying (about 5* s) and Love the 4* s ( told in links )[ 1- 16 months, Manual, Road map])

and

Player Guides

The other trainings

Advanced training

Advanced training ( RT10 ) is very similar to Advanced color training. See color training below.

Color training

Recruit training RT05 to RT09 is regular color training.

RT14 to RT18 is advanced color training.

Click for Color training rant

Free version of summons

Camps are not for Hero XP, but free versions of Daily summons ( 150 gems ) and Epic summons ( 300 gems ).

Every time you level a mine, or Watchtower, you get more iron per day.

Every time you level a farm, or Watchtower, you get more food per day.

Every other time you level Advanced house, you get more recruits per day.

Every time you level a training camp, you get less Hero XP per recruit, and less Hero XP per food. But farming the map does not significantly increase your recruits per day and food per day.

Except for Uncommon ( RT02 ), Low cost ( RT04 ) and Extra low cost ( RT11 ) which were probably snuck in when no one was looking.

And Fast ( RT03 ) and Extra fast ( RT19 ) which trade time for food.

The most extreme example of this is color training.

Color training

While not the most effective use of your time, and resources, color training can be fun.

Gryphonkit, my wife, uses it all the time.

But it is a poor return on your investment.

Regular color training

The below link has some flaws about food costs when leveling, but still accurate about

Hero XP per hour,
Hero XP per recruit and
Food per Hero XP when training.

(Analysis of on-color training (TC5-9) vs common + uncommon training)

Advanced color training

([Math] Advanced color training versus Extra Fast)

Fixing camps

There are a large number of Ideas & Feature Requests giving lots of ideas how to fix camps based on the individuals lack of resources in another part of the game.

But from SGG point of view, camps are perfect, just like Atlantis summons.

@Gryphonknight

4* Heroes are the backbone of Empires. Forge level 17 is the backbone of class quests. But money is the backbone of 5* Heroes.

Note to self

@Gryphonknight
Use desktop computer to rearrange sections for better flow.

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[Neano]

Thank you for the extensive explanations and information supplied, I am sure this will help many better understand certain aspects of the game.

Happy forum anniversary to you @Gryphonknight

[GrubbyRambler]

Any thoughts on HA2 training only uncommon troops? Just seems a bit recruit heavy

[Gryphonknight]

Hoarding Resources, Hero Academy

Latest Edit-

@Gryphonknight

Hoarding resources, Hero Academy

([Math] Hoarding resources in Training camps versus Hero Academy)

[Gryphonknight]

Training TROOPS

@GrubbyRambler

HA2 training only uncommon troops? Just seems a bit recruit heavy

Both @yelnats_24 and @zephyr1 have a great discussion of training troops

@yelnats_24

@zephyr1

Taking a rainbow set of 4* Troops from Level 1 to Level 23 by running two HA levels simultaneously will take 2.54 to 2.91 YEARS

For comparison, F2P who almost never waste flag can do this in around 1.5 years (Edit: without spending gems on Epic Troop Summon).

That means using 2 level of HA along with troop from farming & ETT will be 51-59% faster than only relying on troop from farming & ETT.

Notes

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Recruit Storage

@Gryphonknight

Recruit storage

Also

1.9166 hours of recruit storage per hour of production for Rare troops ( HA6 )

Compared to

2.3000 hours of recruit storage per hour of production for Legendary training ( RT20)

and

4.79166 hours of recruit storage per hour of production for Extra low cost training ( RT11 )

These numbers seem bad compared to iron storage above, but due to Atlantis Rising combined with VIP pass loot tickets combined with Challenge event world energy flasks combined with Advanced house level 9+, you will have a hard time effectively using recruits ( there are a lot of ways to waste recruits).

FIN

[GrubbyRambler]

Did mean heroes. Sorry but thanks for links. Just reading em. Think I like 2star hero training for the guarantee and to tidy my roster up. I use 10 same colour same strength hero’s each time

[GrubbyRambler]

Also should have said HA3

[Gryphonknight]

@GrubbyRambler

HA3

Comparison of HA03 vs RT02 vs RT19

@Gryphonknight

The biggest drawback to Uncommon academy ( HA03 ) is ~2,616+ x 2* ascension items.

1 x 2* ascension item takes significantly more World Energy to farm than 1 x 1* ascension item.

But if you have extra 2* rope, and recruits, it is a useful way to boost daily Hero XP unless you need Hero Academy for troops or retraining.

[Gryphonknight]

Race to Guaranteed Rare recruit training ( RT12 )

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A friend just created an account

I told them to get to Low cost recruit training ( RT04 ), Extra low cost recruit training ( RT11) and Guaranteed rare recruit training ( RT12 )

As
Soon
As
Possible

So they can hoard recruits ( RT04 & RT11 ) and food ( RT12 )

I told them only research RT04, RT11, RT12, and Legendary recruit training ( RT20 )

Skipping other recruit training ( Common RT01, Uncommon RT02, Extra fast RT19 ) until they need to unlock them

Base with RT04

Stronghold 5

Watchtower 3 ( huge source of food and iron )

Mine 5,5
Forge 2,1
Storage, Iron 3,3,1

Farms 2,2,2,1,1
Storage, Food 2,1

House 2,1
Camps 4,2

Roster

Layla 2* 1.9
Bane 3* 1.7
Toril 2* 1.4
Berden 3* 1.4
Shaarkot 2* 1.9

Farming, Auto play

Season 1, Province 4, Stage 4 ( 1.4-4 )

FIN

[Gryphonknight]

Stronghold 5 Auto farming

Team

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Bane 3* 1.7
Berden 3* 1.5
Layla 2* 1.9 ( 3* Lv01 troop Crit & Healing )
Ragnhild 2* 1.10
Farid 2* 1.4

Auto farm, 3 Wv

1.5-3, 3 Wv, 380 PXP

Auto farm, 4 Wv

1.5-2, 4 Wv, 380 PXP

Previous Province

1.4-2, 3 Wv, 241 pxp
1.4-1, 4 Wv, 241 PXP
1.4-5, 4 Wv, 241 pxp, ¿5,6,7 Recruits?

Note

Stronghold 5, Buildings x20

Mines 5,5
Farms 5,5,5,5, 5
Watchtower 5

Storage, Iron 4,3,3
Storage, Food 2,2

Low cost recruit training ( RT04 ) x72
Camps 4,3
House 2,1

Forge 4,1

FIN

[Gryphonknight]

Map Season 01 Elite Mobs

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To pass Map Season 1 ( MS01 ), Elite mobs

Antidotes

10x Antidotes ( Forge 3 ) helps versus status ailments

20x Heal 100 HP also a big help

Basic Color Stacking ( see notes )

1.5-5, 1.8-4 Purple Elite Mobs, stack Yellow

1.6-3 & 6, 1.7-5 Green Elite Mobs, stack Red

Notes

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Basic Color Stacking

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Basic color stacking

Click for basic color stacking

@Gryphonknight

==Double strong color, no weak color, teams==

Now that you have two rainbow teams ( one 3* 3.50 and one 4* 3.60 ) you can create double strong color, no weak color teams.

If you are attacking a Green Boss, then Red heroes are better because they are strong against green, so Green bosses takes double damage. The opposite is true of Blue heroes. Blue heroes cause half damage to a Green boss. The other colors ( Green, Purple & Yellow ) do neutral damage or no increase or decrease in damage.

When attacking a Green boss, remove your BLUE 4* 3.60 hero ( half damage against Green ) from your rainbow 4* 3.60 team, and replace it with your RED 3* 3.50 hero ( double damage against Green ) for a double red, no blue team.

You will do 1 HP of damage with blue matches/ board damage, since you are missing a Blue hero. But your two Red heroes will do double damage. Even if your Red 3* 3.50 hero dies against a Green boss, twice its attack stat will still be added when doing matching/ board/ physical damage.

==Weird color teams==

Other teams:

triple strong color,

quadruple strong color,

double neutral color,

double neutral three color teams and

single color teams.

Once you have more experience with rainbow teams and double strong color, no weak color teams, you can learn more about these weird alternatives.

==Elemental shields or Reflect color enemies==

When you fight an enemy with an elemental shield, it is weak to a color, strong to a color and REFLECTS a color. Example: A Reflect green boss takes double damage from Red heroes, half damage from Blue heroes, and reflects all damage from Green heroes back to that hero. So a triple red, no blue, no green team OR a double red, double yellow/ double purple, no blue no green team works better than a rainbow team. Example you can remove your Blue 4* 3.60 and Green 4* 3.60 heroes and replace them with one Red 3* 3.50 hero and one Purple/ Yellow 3* 3.50 hero.

So having a rainbow 3* 3.50 and a rainbow 4* 3.60 lets you take on Reflect color enemies until you level up a second rainbow 3* 3.50, second rainbow 4* 3.60, etc.

Advanced color stacking

With the damage formula unknown, players only have a partial understanding of advanced color stacking. Mostly complicated by the attack stat soft cap.

([Research] Does Color Stacking have a soft cap? or Attack stat research)

First 3* team

@Gryphonknight

First 3* team

Part 1 ( linky, linky )

First 4* team

Part 2 ( linky, linky )

Second 3* team

Part 3 ( linky, linky )

See also

@Gryphonknight

NOTE

Parts of the original post are severely out of date

Edit

Always hit the titan or Escaped / Reduced / Titan loot tier 1

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As a Teeny account ( Legendary recruit training ( RT20 ) not yet unlocked ), ALWAYS hit the Titan at least once

Edit
100+ k is my main account, It should be a percentage of your maximum storage for food and iron

You are still getting 100+ k of food and iron even if the titan escapes, you get reduced loot, you get Grade D, you get Titan loot tier 1, etc.

FIN

[Gryphonknight]

Lv12, Unlocked War & PoV

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Roster

Team A Healer

Sha Ji 2* 1.19,

Team A

healer, Bane b.3* 1.20, Berden b.3* 1.17, Layla 2* 1.20, Team A Switch

Note
This team is double yellow, so very good for auto farming 1.7-6 with a Red 2* 1.20

Team A Switch,
Red 2* 1.20, Blue 2* 1.20,

Team B Switch for Color stacking ( 2x strong, 2x yellow ( neutral / weak ) )

Purple 2* 1.1,
Blue 1* 1.1,
Green 2* 1.1,
Red 2* 1.1,

Base

Total Building 20

Level 7
Stronghold, Mines x2, Farms x5

Level 6#
Watchtower

Storage- Iron 5, 4^, 4#
Storage- Food 3#,3#

Forge 4,1

Low cost ( RT04 ) = 17d
Camp 4,3
House 2,1

^= Currently upgrading
#= Planning +1 Level upgrade

FIN

[Gryphonknight]

2x Strong, 2x Yellow

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@Gryphonknight

Team B Switch for Color stacking ( 2x strong, 2x yellow ( neutral / weak ) )

Purple 2* 1.1,

Blue 1* 1.1,

Green 2* 1.1,

Red 2* 1.1,

An example of a 2x Strong, 2x Yellow team would be 2x Green, 2x Yellow, 1x Purple/ Blue against an all blue stage in Map Season 1, Province 8

Edit:
If you cannot auto play 1.8-7 ( Green Boss weak to red, but Blue Mobs strong against Red ) to fill a Wanted Mission Ice enemy chest ( rare blue chest ) then

1.8-3 might be better ( All Blue enemies ) with the roster in these posts 2x Yellow ( 2x neutral ) 2x Green ( 2x strong ) 1x Purple ( 1x neutral ) / 1x Blue ( neutral ) might work for you

2* healer

@Gryphonknight

Team A Healer

Sha Ji 2* 1.19,

For colors without a 3* hero ( example purple, blue and red ), I am taking 1x 2* heroes to 2* 1.20 and stopping since all 2* heroes will eventually be replaced

But Classic 3* healers are only Red, or Green. So I will be taking Sha Ji to 2* 3.40 unless I get 2x 3* healers AND 2x 3* yellow before Sha Ji gets to 2* 3.40

FIN

[Saros]

@Gryphonknight , you may advise your friend to go for S1 6-8 autofarming. It should give the most recruits which IMO is more important than anything else.

In addition, I found the easiest map to autofarm with a starting roster with very few level-ups of the starting team heroes is S1 6-7. Sadly it doesn’t have high monster count or recruits.

[Gryphonknight]

3x Yellow

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@Gryphonknight

2x Strong, 2x Yellow team would be 2x Green, 2x Yellow, 1x Purple/ Blue against an all blue stage in Map Season 1, Province 8

With 2x Yellow, you can add a third yellow for 3x Yellow

Example
1.8-4 is all purple enemies

3x Yellow, 0x ( zero ) purple would be 3x strong, 2x neutral

FIN

[Gryphonknight]

Farming Stronghold 7

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@Saros

S1 6-8 autofarming. It should give the most recruits which IMO is more important than anything else

You are not wrong ( see notes )

But

Stronghold 7 cannot produce enough food to store the recruits so Food / Iron / Player eXperience Points ( pxp ) are currently more useful

And pxp / Food / Iron are different ( see notes )

Stronghold 12

Priority is Stronghold 12 to unlock Guaranteed rare recruit training ( RT12 ) for hoarding food and generating 3* healers, and heroes

Farmable 3* ascension items

With v44 upgrading HA08 Epic training, players may also want to unlock 1.12-7 since that is the first province that drops farmable 3* ascension items

Or 1.15-1 to unlock 2.1-xN / xH for farmable 3* ascension items, and kits / backpacks

Notes

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PXP / Food / Iron

@Mai

So the list is basically that graph with the abrupt declines and catching up all cut out:

1-1 to 7-4 , 7-7 to 8-1 , 8-4 , 8-6 to 9-1 – First Peak, cut out declined until it’s a higher XP/energy – 11-1 , 11-2 , 11-5 to 12-9 – Second Peak, same – 16-8 to 17-1 – Third Peak, same – 19-9 to 20-4 – Forth Peak, same – 22-1 to 22-9 , 23-8 to 23-11 – Fifth Peak and end.

@Mai

The food and iron follow the same logic, and have a similar graph, but the reward is not a fix number, so there’s a variation dictated by luck. Taking that into consideration, the best levels to farm them are pretty much the same as the ones for XP above. In other words, the best way to farm food and iron is too farm XP.

Recruits

(Barry Farmz Here -- Comprehensive data driven farming guide for Season 3, Season 2, Season 1, Elemental Chests, Atlantis Rises, Missions, and more)

Recruits S1:6-8 S1:8-7 3.00 S1:8-7 100% S1:8-7 100% S1:3-3 S1:7-7 S1:8-5 S1:12-9 S2:6-9N S2:15-9N S2:15-3H S2:15-8H S3:8-10N S3:10-7N S3:23-3N S3:25-6N S3:13-1H S3:15-3H S3:15-6H S3:18-1H 82%

Edit2

With a default 2x Yellow farm team, 1.7-6 with all purple mobs, is also faster to auto play

Edit1

Unlocking more of Map Season 1 ( MS1 ) also unlocks your Watchtower food / iron which depends on both building level and outposts unlocked

FIN

[Gryphonknight]

Team 6

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Roster management is very poor since designed for 1x every 5* HotM

With costume meta, hopefully ZS does something about it ( Renaming heroes/ duplicates would be a good first start )

Until then I recommend the following 5x teams

Team slot A

Name= Feed 2* / Rainbow 2

Heroes being leveled with same / matching color, 2* 1.1, or higher, heroes

Until 4* / 5* heroes, Rainbow team 2 for basic color stacking

May, or may not, be leveling

Team slot B

Name= Feed 1* / Rainbow 1

Heroes being leveled with same / matching color, 1* 1.1 heroes, especially 4* / 5* costumes

Until 4* / 5* heroes, especially 4* / 5* costumes, Rainbow team 1

May, or may not, be leveling

Team slot C

Name= R.Def

Raid Defense team

Team slot D

Name= Map / Quest / PvE

Monster / Map / Quest / PvE team

Team slot E

Name= Titan

Titan team

PvP

When you start raiding, I recommend spending 100 gems and getting a sixth team slot

My six teams

Feed 2* / Rainbow 2 ( nice having Feed teams at beginning )

Feed 1* / Rainbow 1

R.Def

R.Att 1

Map / Quest / PvE

Titan ( nice having Titan team at end )

First raid attack team

Name= R.Att 1 / Raid 1

First raid attack team, later may get another slot for second raid attack team

PS ZS, we need more team slots and better roster GUI

Notes

Leveling heroes

@Gryphonknight

Discussions about leveling heroes ( 3* Heroes will change, for the better, in an upcoming update )

( [Links, Links, Links] Discussions about leveling heroes- Updated 2018-Jun-06 )

See also

@Gryphonknight

Notes

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Bookmarks

([Tip] Searching your forum bookmarks, pinned topics, categories, other users, etc. OR Useful search modifiers- Updated)

Pins

(Any thoughts on better organization for Forum Categories & Pinned Posts? - #13 by Gryphonknight)

Links

See also

Some of the below are out of date

First 4* team

@Gryphonknight

First 4* team

Part 2 ( linky, linky )

Training camps

([Repost, Training Camps] Recruit training - common training ( RT01 ) to Legendary training ( RT20 ) - Advice, Stats, and Math)

Hoarding

@Gryphonknight

Where to hoard food/ iron will always depend on your play style, micro transaction budget, roster, and options ( gems , completed buildings, researched levels, recruits, ingredients, battle items, etc. )

Research / Guides have already been published to help players decide for Training camps and hero academy ( see notes )

Has anybody posted similar for Alchemy Lab? ( my Google Fu is weak )

Farming

(Barry Farmz Here -- Comprehensive data driven farming guide for Season 3, Season 2, Season 1, Elemental Chests, Atlantis Rises, Missions, and more)

VF and AR kits / backpacks

(Valhalla Forever - Optimum Levels for Farming - #54 by Gryphonknight)

VF Gnomes and AR dragons

(Valhalla Forever - Optimum Levels for Farming - #53 by Gryphonknight)

Old link collection

([Guide] “Rage Quit and back again” or How I learned to stop worrying (about 5* s) and Love the 4* s ( told in links )[ 1- 16 months, Manual, Road map])

Wu Kong Cascade Squad, Grinder Gang, Debuff Duo

@Gryphonknight

Wu Kong Cascade Squad

([Play Style] The cascade squad or Wu Kong+ two healers- New Notes 2019-Mar )

Wu Kong Grinder Gang

(Wu Kong grinder gang or Powerful rainbow auto play team or Wu Kong plus 4 healers )

Old link collection

([Links, Links, Links ] Waiting for 5* heroes or effective use of 4* and 3* Hero teams from Legendary training- Updated 2018-Jun-03)

So many opinions

([Links, Links, Links] Discussions about leveling heroes- Updated 2018-Jun-06)

Rare chests ( still no food in them )

([Repost] Rare chest back to back and 2 rare chests at once or any chest can be rare [Reposted for smartphone users and future reference])

Troop, and hero, loot drops

([Repost] Farming 1* / 2* troops and 1* / 2* heroes [Reposted for smartphone users and future reference] Updated 2019-Nov)

Customer support

([Repost] v31+ Contacting Support [Reposted for Smartphone users and future reference])

Wilbur

([Repost] Wilbur Raid Tutorial [Reposted here for smartphone users and future reference])

Emblem economy

(Devs explanation of Emblem drops - reposted here for visibility ( and for smartphone users ))

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[Gryphonknight]

Teeny War, Part 1

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Tips for Teeny accounts in a war

War points

([Tips] War points, War healing, Fleeing and Temporary war healing)

Any points

Any points you earn, could help your alliance win ( see war points above )

Remember Alliance War is a team effort, points are points

Clean up

Often teeny accounts will be assigned, or target, heavily damaged, war defense teams

This lets more powerful alliance teammates use their war energy for tougher teams, instead of using them for tiny clean ups

Remember Alliance War is a team effort, points are points

A War Story - Layla 2* 1.1 to the Rescue, or Lucky Clean Up

Sometimes a defense team will only have 1x low HP hero left, with luck, and some skill, even a 1x 1* 1.1 hero attack team can earn 312 war points

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Player A was fighting in their first war

Player A had
1x 4*,
3x 3*,
10x 2*,
6x 1* heroes
Most were 1.1 or barely leveled

Player A forget to save 2x heroes, 1x each for their last 2x war energy

Wanting to get PoV points, they claimed 1x 2* 1.1 hero from their Low cost recruit training ( RT04 ) and used it for their 5th war energy earning 1 war point ( Their current total was 231 war points, highest was 113 war points for 1x war energy , with 22 as their current second lowest )

Despite to use the last war energy for PoV points, they farmed Map Season 1 until Layla 2* 1.1 dropped

Using Layla 2* 1.1, and their last war energy, they killed a badly wounded Noor 5* 4.41 ( with 3* Lv11 Heal & Crit troop ) to win the team kill bonus 306 points, and 312 points for that war energy for a grand total of 543 war points for their alliance that war

Remember Alliance War is a team effort, points are points

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[Gryphonknight]

Barracks 1

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Stronghold 10

Iron Storage 8,7,7,7

Mine 9,9,9

Forge 4,1 (5)

Food Storage 6,6

Farm 9,9,9 9,9,9

Watchtower 10

House 6,6

Camps 4,3

Notes

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Troops

My 2017-Sep account does not use Barracks anymore ( see below )

But My teeny account has not unlocked guaranteed rare recruit training ( RT12 ) to hoard food, and does not have enough resources to use food other ways, so food keeps piling up

Barracks, and Lv2+ troops, are a way to burn food

Troops

@Gryphonknight

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Troops

In my opinion, Epic troop tokens from loot drops ( summon 3* Lv01 / 4* Lv01 troops ) are more important than the Barracks building ( leveling troops to Lv02+ )

Since 2* / 3* / 4* Lv01 troops already give you lots of good variety if you have 5x each type of troop ( looking at you 4* Lv01 crit/ ninja/ mana troops )

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@Gryphonknight

2* / 3* / 4* Lv01 troops

@sft1965

little conservative, but have kept 5 duplicates of everything, lvl 2 and above

I agree

I love 2* / 3* / 4* Lv01 troops

Unlike heroes, you can have infinite 2* / 3* / 4* Lv01 troops

Food

Since SGG has dramatically increased uses for food, I stopped leveling any troops

Advanced color stacking

For color stacking, the type of troop can be more important than its level ( see notes )

2* Mana troop

I wish we had 2* mana troops ( see notes )

Notes

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2* Mana troop

@Gryphonknight

Adding Mana bonus 2* troops would benefit all heroes with costumes and classes.

Suggested stats

2* level 15 troop

Attack +10 Defense +10 Mana +15

General troop power

@Gryphonknight

In general, a 3* lvl 3 troop is better than a maxed 2* lvl 15 troop and a 4* lvl 1 troops is better than a 3* lvl 9 troop

Advanced color stacking

@Gryphonknight

RNG stat troops

Crit troops can be tricky when color stacking since it involves RNG.

Barracks

Original troops were all Lv01 / no level

Later SGG added Barrack as a way to increase spend depth

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[Gryphonknight]

Teeny War, Part 2

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Mono war attack teams rule❗️

Mono war attack teams rule ( see color stacking, and troops, in notes )

For a new account I recommend Mono war attack teams, starting with 1* 1.1, then 2* 1.1 and then 3* 1.1

Do not bother leveling the 1* / 2* heroes, they are just for color stacking ( see notes )

Colors

10x Purple ( 2* preference Layla )
10x Yellow ( 2* preference Nash )
5x Blue ( 2* preference Ragnhild )
5x Green ( 2* preference Needler )
5x Red ( 2* preference 3x Zudack / 2x Farid )

3* 1.1 > 2* preference > any other 2* ( not 2* preference ) > any 1*

1* / 2*

BTW 1* / 2* War attack teams are the worst

See also

@Gryphonknight

Leveling from Player Level 1 >> Player Level 2 rewards 350 gems and 1x Epic Hero Token

Notes

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Color stacking, Basic & Advanced

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Troops

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