Valhalla Forever - Optimum Levels for Farming

[Gryphonknight]

Valhalla Forever Loot rolls

As a general rule, loot rolls are tied directly to World Energy

Especially ascension items, and ingredients ( see notes )

3 WE

So if you just want to get ascension items, or ingredients,

3 WE Valhalla stages ( 50% WE discount ) are probability best

2x total bonus loot rolls ( ascension items and ingredients ) per 1 WE due to WE discount ( 6 WE / 3 WE )

Kits

Best kits/ backpack per energy during VF should be VF.11-xN ( see below 4 WE )

VF special event kit nerf, 4 WE, 8 WE

VF special event kit nerf

province 1-9 are usually the 6 WE provinces in a Map Season

Provinces with 6 WE usually become 3 WE during each Map Season’s special event

So you usually want the best Adventure kits/ backpacks in provinces 1-9

So it looks like Adventure kits/ backpacks ( see tool tab for increased chance )

are

Boosted for AR ( Season 2, Province 1*** )

***= 1 is inside 1-9 plus AR includes a +50% loot bonus

regular for Underwild Descending ( Season 4, Provinces 2**, 24, 29 )

** = 2 is within 1-9 assuming VF is the model for UD

nerfed for VF ( Season 3, Province 11*, 26, 32 ),

*= 11 is outside 1-9

4 WE

Best kits/ backpack per energy during VF should still be VF.11-xN since it is the cheapest WE ( 4 WE ) that still has an increased chance of kits/ backpack ( effectively 14x kit loot rolls ) and 1.75x total bonus loot rolls per 1 WE due to WE discount ( 7 WE / 4 WE )

8 WE

For loot tickets you might consider VF.11-xH ( 8 WE ) which has an increased chance of kits/ backpack ( effectively 33x kit loot rolls ) but only has 1.375x total bonus loot rolls per 1 WE due to WE discount ( 11 WE / 8 WE )

Translation

Stages VF.11-xH

have effectively more kits/ backpack loot rolls ( +17.85 % effectively kit loot rolls )

but

less total ACTUAL loot ( -21.42 % total actual loot [ ascension item loot rolls, ingredient loot rolls, food and iron ] ) than

Stages VF.11-xN

Notes

Click for notes

AR

Example from AR for kits / backpacks

@Gryphonknight

@JackieChanBruce

I thought HARD would give you more and better loot, but costs more energy too hey ?

Ascension item rolls are weird ( see notes ).

It will be interesting if it changes for Season 3. address some issues people had with Season 2 ( linky, linky ).

Notes

Click for notes

@gregschen

• S2N (normal difficulty) provinces 7, 8 and 9 give the most ascension mats rolls, clocking in at 3.5 per 3 WE

• After that, there are a TON of provinces that give 3 ascension mat rolls per 3 WE.

Province 1.5 and 2.1 have effective 2 kit rolls per 1 ascension item roll

Winner

AR= 3we = 2 rolls per 1 we= effective 4 kit rolls per 1 we

@gregschen

Province Ascension Mats Crafting Mats

|2N-01|6|9

Tied

6we = 1 roll per 1 we= effective 2 kit rolls per 1 we

@gregschen

Province Ascension Mats Crafting Mats

|2N-01|6|9

10 we= 1 roll per 1 we= effective 2 kit rolls per 1 we

@gregschen

Province Ascension Mats Crafting Mats

|2H-01|10|15

3 we= 1 roll per 1 we= effective 2 kit rolls per 1 we

Missing several 4* ingredients and 3* ascension items.

Most monsters per 1 we

Most troops per 1 we

@gregschen

Province Ascension Mats Crafting Mats

|1-05|3|5

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Loot rolls

Example for Season 1 and 2

@gregschen

Did not update for Season 3 or 4

@gregschen

Taking it a step further, on a per-world-energy basis (actually, the numbers below are on a per-three-world-energy basis, since it results in round numbers, and three WE is the least you can spend to play any level anyway):

• S2N (normal difficulty) provinces 7, 8 and 9 give the most ascension mats rolls, clocking in at 3.5 per 3 WE

• After that, there are a TON of provinces that give 3 ascension mat rolls per 3 WE.

• S1 provinces 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8 (plus level 9-1), and S2N provinces 7, 8 and 9 give the most crafting mat rolls, at 5 per 3 WE

• There are a pretty good number of provinces that give close to 5 crafting mat rolls per 3 WE as well.

• S1 province 4 gives the least ascension mat rolls, with 2 per 3WE. S1 province 9 (other than level 9-1) comes in second-worst, at 2.3 / 3 WE.

• S1 levels 20-5 through 22-9 give the least crafting mat rolls per 3 WE, at 3.4. There are some levels in S1 provinces 13 and 17 that are close to that too.

I don’t know how much this really helps in terms of where to go for best farming. I do think it might help break ties when you’re deciding between a couple of spots, so hopefully some of you find it useful that way.

Some random related thoughts to keep in mind when making farming choices:

• Troops and feeder heroes drop more frequently (per world energy) in the cheap S1 provinces.

• I think the 3 star and 4 star crafting mats appear more frequently (per world energy) in the more expensive provinces (and I’m fairly certain that’s true with respect to the S2 hard mode levels), but this hasn’t been truly verified by Barry’s farming project yet, as far as I know.

• Recruits should probably remain the top focus, since they’re the easiest valuable reward to predict accurately. (In other words, the number of ascension/crafting material rolls noted above still doesn’t tell you much about how many of a specific material to expect. If you’re farming for Dragon Bones, I suppose going to the provinces that yield the most crafting mat rolls per WE would make sense, but 4 star mats drop so infrequently even in the provinces where they’re supposed to be more common, that it simply doesn’t make a ton of sense to make them a priority over more predictable loot of similar value, like recruits.)

Kits

Not AR but demonstrates how loot rolls can work

@Gryphonknight

@Gryphonknight

single ( 1x ) run for 2.1-8H .

RNG waited until I quit my alliance so I cannot brag there.

But for loot roll analysis I am posting here.

First run this morning got 9x Kits/ backpacks on a single ( 1x ) run for 2.1-8H .

With a drop rate of 0.35 per 1 we, and 9-11 ascension item rolls per run, that will be hard to beat.

But I have faith someone will do it. Because. Grindy. So. Very. Grindy.

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