Which 4* to level up first, Cyprian or Proteus?

[Storm3]

Who should I level up first Cyprian or Proteus?

[Rduke77]

Proteus and it’s not close!

[Cruzcampo]

There is no counter argument to this. Proteus is that useful.

[Gryphonknight]

Normally I say “It depends on your roster” but not this time.

If you have Rigard, I would level Rigard and Proteus to 4* 3.60, then Rigard to 4* 4.70 then Proteus to 4* 4.70 ( see notes on Purple 4* heroes ).

Many people have wanted a 5* Rigard for a long time. If you do not get rumored blue 5* Ariel, then 4*+19 Rigard is just as good.

Many people love purple 5* Hel. If you do not have 5* Hel, then 4*+19 Proteus can actually be betters ( that is a long discussion of 5* Hel versus 4*+19 Proteus versus rumored purple 4*+19 Cheshire Cat ).

If you do not have Rigard, I would level Proteus to 4* 3.60 then, if you have them Sabina 4* 3.60 or Tiburtus 4* 3.60 ( see notes ).

Cyprian is a very powerful hero, but a tough hero to learn how to use ( see notes )

I am also a big fan of getting a good rainbow 4* 3.60 team before leveling any hero to 4* 4.1 ( see notes )

Notes

purple 4* hero order and reasoning

@Gryphonknight

Currently I am leveling to 4* 4.70, so I can unlock 4*+1

Cleric Rigard
Ranger Tiburtus
Sorcerer Sabina
Wizard Proteus
( see Notes for explanation)

All Defense/ HP grids

And if I had Cyprian I would add him to the end of the list as all attack grid Paladin Cyprian. But all defense grid Paladin Guardian Falcon would go first for emblems if I ever get either hero.

And if I ever get through all the above 4* purples- Sorcerer Cheshire Cat is rumored to be a 4* purple so Cat would be after Sabina for emblems but I would immediately take him to 4* 3.60 because OMG

So the above is my personal recommendation of purple hero order.

How to level your first 4* team

@Gryphonknight

Level your first rainbow team from 4* tier 1 level 1 ( 4* 1.1 ) to 4* tier 3 level 60 ( 4* 3.60 ). Do not use 3* ascension items, yet.

Any 4* 3.60 hero is better than any 3* 3.50 heroes.

==Leveling your rainbow team to 4* 3.60==

4* 3.60 heroes are the most powerful in the game using only 1*/ 2* ascension items. 1* / 2* ascension items can be farmed on the world map along with recruits, food, iron, XP, ingredients, 1* / 2* troops and 1* / 2* heroes.

Two 4* 3.60 heroes take the same XP as one 4* 4.70. But the 4* 4.70 is not twice as powerful as each 4* 3.60 hero. While two 4* 3.60 heroes are more versatile, and with double color ( see below ) potentially more powerful.

If you level a 4* 3.60 hero to 4* 4.1 you use six 3* ascension items. If you buy them during special offers, this will cost $12+ USD. You can never get these 3* ascension items back.

Save your 3* ascension items, and the hero XP, until you know the game better and can select which heroes are good.

==Use only same color 1* / 2* heroes to level your 4* heroes==

Using matching colors doubles your chance of the hero’s special skill increasing, and gives you a bonus +20% hero XP.

Later you can experiment with off color/ random color leveling of heroes.

Breaking Empires with purple 4* heroes

@Gryphonknight

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Gryphonkit, my wife, reached #30 on the Global Top 100 player list from players revenging against her reaching #58 on the Global Top 100 player list. She screen shot at #58, I logged in to check and screen shot at #30. It did not last.

5* heros are worthless so save your money! 4* Heroes are almost as powerful and cheaper!

Gryphonkit, my wife, raids in high diamond with 5* 4.80 Obakan, 4* 4.70 Hansel and three more purple 4* 4.80 heroes ( her defense team is all 5* heroes).

Recently she was #30 on the Top 100 Global list.

Reflect Damage ability

A lot of players think reflect damage is a defense buff.

Obakan & Cyprian are not defense heroes but attack heroes and I will explain how.

The stronger their opponents- raid, quest bosses, titans- the harder the enemy hits them and the higher their reflect damage.

Since defense stat is non- linear, an ally +10% defense buff is better than an enemy-10% attack debuff. This also means doubling defense has a higher impact than doubling attack. But for a reflect damage hero, lowering its defense stat ( many enemies do this, very common on Season 1 map) results in a substantial increase in incoming AND reflected damage.

Other useful links

[Guide] “Rage Quit and back again” or How I learned to stop worrying (about 5* s) and Love the 4* s ( told in links )[ 1- 16 months, Manual, Road map]

@Gryphonknight

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([Links, Links, Links ] Waiting for 5* heroes or effective use of 4* and 3* Hero teams from Legendary training- Updated 2018-Jun-03 )

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Player Guides

[Storm3]

Thx gryphon. I do have Rigard. Just leveled him to 3. Thx for the information. It was very useful.

[MrsBCW]

I have both and I’d say to go with Proteus, he’s one that you can take to raids (especially on attack), titans, wars, events.

Cyprian is good however I’ve hardly used him except when in raid defense, and that was quite a few months ago.

I’d recommend reading the player guides that Gryphon Knight pointed you to, it helped me a great deal.

[Patrick]

Proteus is a God. I can’t imagine taking him out of my offensive lineup.

[Rduke77]

Me too, I’d take him up first over Rigard myself. He has single-handedly upped my raid win percentage significantly. I don’t have Hel, but he’s the next best thing!

[Zteev]

Proteus was my first Atlantis pull, and my first 4* purple. AS I’ve said in other threads, he’s great any time you are facing things which generate mana, as long as they don’t reflect purple - and sometimes that wouldn’t deter me.

[arios]

Proteus then Proteus then Proteus again. in Event Proteus except Purple Reflect is a must if you dont have Hel. 2-3 Proteus in lineup = 100% mana lock

[AdrianW2008]

Another vote for Proteus. His special is game-changing. Especially against multiple bosses in challenges and Seasonal Events. Super helpful in raiding too.

Having said that, 3-60 Cyprian was a great tank for me when I was first getting started, and I still use him in wars. Just last night I won a fight because Magni attacked Cyprian and killed himself.

[Storm3]

I took the overwhelming advice and have Proteus on the grid +2. Helps me to beat teams 200-300 points higher. Thanks all!

[Jgmc2]

Proteus, wilbur, Wukong are the 3 best 4* in the game.
I got proteus today, now i have all 3.
Got Atomos on the way also, i might do some testing on him aswell once lvled up to rank 3

[RokoTheFearless]

I have all three Love them all.

[Patrick]

Agree on the first 2, I’d take Hansel over Wu. I find Wu is good for titans and desperation at the end if a war.

[Jgmc2]

It’s not good for titan, it’s one of the must have for titan

[Seashells4ever]

Proteus all the way no questions asked! He is pretty badass don’t underestimate him. Have him on one of your team’s he will definitely come in handy!

[Greywing]

Good choice, Storm. I highly value Rigard, but Proteus is a game-changer; level him up and you’ll never fear bosses or miss AMs again. Even Rigard can’t match that.

[Storm3]

I took the advice here and have Proteus on the grid. Can’t imagine a team without him

[ABCTeapot]

Hands down Proteus is better then Cyprian for multiple reasons. He is also probably my least favorite 4* Purple. Your basically gambling with Cyprian going off and then they are targeting your counter attack for him to even be effective. This makes him pretty useless in raids and wars for the most part. Proteus you obviously have more control over and can be overpowering if you got heals ready to go off, or, something you need to stop that can change the game in your favor.

Proteus vs Rigard (my opinion)

I have Proteus and Rigard and I can say hands down I would never choose mana lock over dispel depending on opponent or the titan/event boss. I am not here to shame Proteus because mana lock is powerful, however, dispel is just as powerful if you know who you are facing off against. You can cripple teams with Rigard so they both have different play styles and not comparable in my books.

Proteus vs Tibertus (my opinion)

Proteus is good if your stopping a hungry fast team trying to explode. Simply put he is there to control the super aggressive teams. Usually squishy teams. Far as titans and event bosses go I would say Tibertus is the upper hand purple 4*. 6 Turn Defense killer is hands down my favorite on any 4 star. I play a more aggressive play style and I feel like Proteus likes to prolong the game by just stalling defenses until you can do damage elsewhere.