🐼 Sun Shangxiang – 4* Fire / Red from War of the Three Kingdoms

New War of the Three Kingdoms hero is released: Sun Shangxiang

This thread is for discussing strategy related to Sun Shangxiang, as well as your thoughts on him.


Sun Shangxiang

Rarity Element Class
:star::star::star::star:
Epic
:fire:
Fire/Red
image
Fighter
Mana Speed Attack Defense Health
A
Average
:crossed_swords:
782
:shield:
546
:heart:
1224
Origin Family
War of the Three Kingdoms Kingdom
:dizzy: Special Skill: Royal Blades
  • Deals 280% damage to the target and minor damage to dearby enemies.
  • The target and nearby enemies get -44% defense, and a further -4% decrease every time they are hit during 3 turns.

All-in-one still under construction. Card image to be added when available.


:hugs: Family Bonus

Heroes become stronger when teamed with other unique Heroes of the same family.

Kingdom family
Bonus for 1 / 2 / 3 Heroes:

  • 3% / 6% / 10% mana each time a Minion is summoned for the Hero.
  • 4% / 6% / 8% heal each time a Minion is summoned for the Hero.

Morale Boost

Heroes belonging to this family as well as heroes fighting alongside with them receive additional persk in War of the Three Kingdoms:
+10% attack, + 3% defense, +7% health


:balance_scale: Balance Changes

May 2022

Result:

  • Defense is increased to 546 from 545.
  • HP is increased to 1224 from 1223.

June 2022


:test_tube: Changes from Beta

There appear to be no changes to Sun Shangxiang from last-seen Beta stats, skill, and design.

Beta Information: 🧪 Early Information on New War of the Three Kingdom Heroes [Part of The Beta Beat v46]


:thought_balloon: What do you think of Sun Shangxiang ?

This thread is for thoughts and discussion on Sun Shangxiang.

Based on preferences Forum members have expressed, please try to stick mainly to Sun Shangxiang and not wander off topic too much to other heroes.

Some Popular Questions for Discussion

  • Is Sun Shangxiang worth summoning for?

  • Would you use Sun Shangxiang on Defense? Offense? War? Quests/Events? Titans?

  • Which heroes on your Roster best pair with Sun Shangxiang ?

  • What heroes would you take when facing Sun Shangxiang as an opponent?

  • Would you give Sun Shangxiang Fighter Emblems? Which Talent Grid path will you choose?

  • What do you think of special?

  • What do you think of Sun Shangxiang’s character design?

  • If you Summoned Sun Shangxiang and would like to post your results, please include some thoughts on why you Summoned Sun Shangxiang, and whether/how you plan to make use of them.*

*NOTE: Summon Results posted without any commentary/feedback at all should be flagged as Off Topic and removed, based on preferences expressed by the Forum community. Please include some comments about what you think of Sun Shangxiang when posting Summon Results. In addition to opinions about Sun Shangxiang, you are also encouraged to include how many Summons it took before receiving Sun Shangxiang (or how many Summons you’ve done without receiving Sun Shangxiang), so other players are presented with realistic experiences of the rarity of Epic Event Hero.


:money_with_wings: Avoiding Overspending & Heartache :broken_heart:
Or: How many summons are needed to get an Epic Challenge Event Hero?

It’s important to remember that Challenge Event Heroes have EXTREMELY low summoning odds. No amount of summoning will guarantee a Challenge Event Hero.

On average, in a 10-pull, you have a 17.5% chance of summoning Sun Shangxiang.

But that statistic can lead our minds astray in exactly how our odds play out as we continue summoning.

Some useful insights:

  • 69 times out of 100, you’ll get Sun Shangxiang by pull 20 (5,200 gems)
  • 95 times out of 100, you’ll get Sun Shangxiang by pull 156 (46,800 gems)
  • 99 times out of 100, you’ll get Sun Shangxiang by pull 240 (62,400 gems)

Putting that in Perspective

  • 31 out of every 100 people won’t get Sun Shangxiang by the 20th pull
  • If 1 Million players each summoned :two::zero: times, 309,196 of those players wouldn’t get Sun Shangxiang
  • 5 out of every 100 people won’t get Sun Shangxiang by the 156th pull
  • If 1 Million players each summoned :one::five::zero: times, 56,280 of those players wouldn’t get Sun Shangxiang
  • 1 out of every 100 people won’t get Sun Shangxiang by the 240th pull
  • If 1 Million players each summoned :two::four::zero: times, 10,013 of those players wouldn’t get Sun Shangxiang

More Insights & Reading

I highly recommend reading these three threads for more information and context on summoning odds:

If you’ve read them a million times before, you may consider reading them again before deciding on your budget for summoning. A little time spent deciding on how much money you want to risk on summoning goes a long way to avoiding disappointment, frustration, and regret later. :slight_smile:


:thinking: Wondering About Your Personal Situation?

Feel free to discuss your team and roster here, and ask for advice from other Forum members.

If you’d like more extensive advice on sorting out your particular roster, I recommend creating a new thread in #gameplay-help-tactics, and posting screenshots of your hero roster, along with your questions.


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Feedback Poll - Sun Shangxiang (post release)

:question: Is Sun Shangxiang worth Summoning For?

  • Yes, absolutely
  • Only if you’re P2P
  • Yes, but only when featured.
  • Not really
  • Not at all

0 voters

:question: How many copies of Sun Shangxiang would be useful to keep & Level?

Note - this is roster space dependent & isn’t the same for everyone!

  • Zero
  • Just one
  • 2
  • 3
  • All of them

0 voters

:question: What do you think Sun Shangxiang’s Primary Purpose is?

  • Damage Dealer (Immediate)
  • Defense Debuffer

0 voters

:question: What do you think of Sun Shangxiang compared to other Heroes?

  • Over Powered (OP)
  • Little stronger than Most
  • On Par with Most
  • Little Weaker than Most
  • Completely Broken (Under Powered)

0 voters

:question: How does Sun Shangxiang’s Special Skill and Intended Purpose match his Base Stats?

Note this means his Class, Attack, Defence & HP Stat

  • Perfectly
  • Better than Most
  • On Par with Most
  • Worse than Most
  • Terribly

0 voters

:question: Is Sun Shangxiang worth giving Fighter Emblems to?

  • Yes absolutely
  • Yes, but only if you don’t have a 5* Option
  • Yes, but only if you’re focusing on 4* Heroes/ Events
  • Hmmmm, not sure yet
  • No, I don’t think so.
  • No… Not at all.

0 voters

:question: In Defence, where do you think Sun Shangxiang is best used?

Note, as a 4* hero, please consider with this question up-and-coming players not just end-game players (where 5* heroes are a luxury not a given).

  • Left Wing
  • Left Flank
  • Tank
  • Right Flank
  • Right Wing
  • Not on defence at all.

0 voters

:question: How do you think Sun Shangxiang is best used?

  • PvP Raids/ War attack
  • Normal Defence
  • War Defence
  • Titans
  • Farming
  • Tournaments
  • Event Teams

0 voters

Choose up to 3 options
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That is one broken defense stat. Average speed and a very fragile glass cannon. Will probably die before charging

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Better def than Magni

I hope I can get her.

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Me wanna. Even though def is on low side, so embleming is required.

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A happy girl !!

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Did you design her :)?

I’m curious about what the max defense reduction is if anyone can test.

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In Beta the maximum was -68%

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Thanks, I had forgotten. So many heroes, it is hard to remember sometimes.

I think i saw your touches on this beauty also …


Yes?

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Got her, but I doubt that I will max her very soon. I prioritize maxing heroes for war and her defense is just too low for the enemies I face

I am curious if we are going to see this lady on challenge event teams. The defense down she can potentially get is bigger than (c)Santa or Wilbur. You still need to bring Wilbur for the shared damage so I’m not sure if slotting out Scarlett for epic or cColen for legendary for her is justified. What do you guys think?

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Not the most important point ever made but these heroes were definitely designed by the same artist who did Clash of Knights, right? Shangxiang looks so much like Wren to me and I love the level of detail in both portals’ design!

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She’s going to be a monster against titans. Want!

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To answer your question yes and no

I believe somewhere in the forum I read that @BaiMingCG started some of the sketches and someone else finished them.

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The Scarlett of 2022. She’ll destroy someone with ferant’s riposte

:blush:

Yes, I did
The previous account can’t be used. I got a new one

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She is a glass cannon but I am trying to emblem her along the Defense path, wherever the Defense Node is I go. Currently at 13 emblems, will have her done tomorrow or the next day.

So far I really like her, as said by others she is the 4* Athena. Also great art too @Bai_Ming

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