šŸÆ Jade - 5* Nature / Green from Ninja Tower

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New Ninja Tower hero is released: Jade

This thread is for discussing strategy related to Jade, as well as your thoughts on him.

Jade
Rarity Element Class Mana Speed
:star::star::star::star::star:
Legendary		 :leaves:
Nature/Green		 image
Monk		 C
Charge
Level Attack Defense Health

4/80		 :crossed_swords:
692		 :shield:
819		 :heart:
1446
4/85 745 883 1558
4/90 853 1010 1783
Origin Family
Ninja Tower Ninja
Image Aether Power Description
regen Regen At the start of each battle, this Hero regenerates 420 health over 6 turns.
In battles with multiple waves, the effect is refreshed at the beginning of each wave.
:dizzy: Special Skill: Shared Visage
    • Special Skill has a different effect when charged with 100% / 200% / 300% mana:

    • 1x Mana Charge:
      • Deals 115% damage to all enemies.
      • Reduces the mana of all enemies by 10%.
      • The caster gets +25% chance of dodging special attacks that do damage for 3 turns.

    • 2x Mana Charge:
      • Deals 210% damage to all enemies.
      • Reduces the mana of all enemies by 15%.
      • The caster and nearby allies get 50% chance of dodging special attacks that do damage for 4 turns.

    • 3x Mana Charge:
      • Deals 300% damage to all enemies.
      • Reduces the mana of all enemies by 25%.
      • All allies get +75% chance of dodging special attacks that do damage for 5 tuns.

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:hugs: Family Bonus

Ninja Heroes have a family bonus for unique heroes of the same family.

Ninja Family
Bonus for 1 / 2 / 3 Heroes:

  • 5% / 10% / 15% chance to dodge normal attacks and Special Skills
  • 5% / 10% / 15% chance to counterattack with 60% / 90% / 120% of the damage received

The two effects have individual sequential processing. So one may not trigger while the other might.

:balance_scale: Balance Changes

Aug 2022

August 2024

:test_tube: Changes from Beta

There appear to be no changes to Jade from last-seen Beta stats, skill, and design.

Beta Information: šŸ§Ŗ Early Information on Ninja Tower Heroes (Epic & Legendary) [Part of The Beta Beat V32]

:thought_balloon: What do you think of Jade ?

This thread is for thoughts and discussion on Jade.

Based on preferences Forum members have expressed, please try to stick mainly to Jade and not wander off topic too much to other heroes.

Some Popular Questions for Discussion

  • Is Jade worth summoning for?

  • Would you use Jade on Defense? Offense? War? Quests/Events? Titans?

  • Which heroes on your Roster best pair with Jade ?

  • What heroes would you take when facing Jade as an opponent?

  • Would you give Jade Monk Emblems? Which Talent Grid path will you choose?

  • What do you think of special?

  • What do you think of Jadeā€™s character design?

  • If you Summoned Jade and would like to post your results, please include some thoughts on why you Summoned Jade, and whether/how you plan to make use of them.*

*NOTE: Summon Results posted without any commentary/feedback at all should be flagged as Off Topic and removed, based on preferences expressed by the Forum community. Please include some comments about what you think of Jade when posting Summon Results. In addition to opinions about Jade, you are also encouraged to include how many Summons it took before receiving Jade (or how many Summons youā€™ve done without receiving Jade), so other players are presented with realistic experiences of the rarity of Legendary Event Hero.

:money_with_wings: Avoiding Overspending & Heartache :broken_heart:
Or: How many summons are needed to get a Legendary Challenge Event Hero?

Itā€™s important to remember that Challenge Event Heroes have EXTREMELY low summoning odds. No amount of summoning will guarantee a Challenge Event Hero.

On average, in a 10-pull, you have a 1.65% chance of summoning Jade.

But that statistic can lead our minds astray in exactly how our odds play out as we continue summoning.

Some useful insights:

  • 15 times out of 100, youā€™ll get Jade by pull 100 (26,000 gems)
  • 56 times out of 100, youā€™ll get Jade by pull 500 (130,000 gems)
  • 95 times out of 100, youā€™ll get Jade by pull 1,796 (467,200 gems)
  • 99 times out of 100, youā€™ll get Jade by pull 2,761 (717,900 gems)

Putting that in Perspective

  • 85 out of every 100 people wonā€™t get Jade by the 100th pull

  • If 1 Million players each spent $259.97 (US) to summon :one::zero::zero: times, 846,364 of those players wouldnā€™t get Jade

  • 5 out of every 100 people wonā€™t get Jade by the 1800th pull

  • If 1 Million players each spent $4,671.53 US to summon :one::eight::zero::zero: times, 49,663 of those players wouldnā€™t get Jade

More Insights & Reading

I highly recommend reading these three threads for more information and context on summoning odds:

If youā€™ve read them a million times before, you may consider reading them again before deciding on your budget for summoning. A little time spent deciding on how much money you want to risk on summoning goes a long way to avoiding disappointment, frustration, and regret later. :slight_smile:

:thinking: Wondering About Your Personal Situation?

Feel free to discuss your team and roster here, and ask for advice from other Forum members.

If youā€™d like more extensive advice on sorting out your particular roster, I recommend creating a new thread in Gameplay Help & Tactics, and posting screenshots of your hero roster, along with your questions.

:link: Related Threads You May Be Interested In

Original Discussion topic on old Ninja heroes:

Round 1 Ninja Hero topics:

Round 2 Ninja Hero topics:

Round 3 Ninja Hero topics:

Beta Information:

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Feedback Poll - Jade (post release)


:question: Is Jade worth Summoning For?

  • Yes, absolutely
  • Only if youā€™re P2P
  • Yes, but only when featured.
  • Not really
  • Not at all

0 voters

:question: How many copies of Jade would be useful to keep & Level?
Note - this is roster space dependent & isnā€™t the same for everyone!

  • Zero
  • Just one
  • 2
  • 3
  • All of them

0 voters

:question: What do you think Jadeā€™s Primary Purpose is?

Before Balance update

  • Mana Cutter
  • Protection against special skills (Dodge)

0 voters

After balance update

  • Damage Dealer (Immediate)
  • Mana Cutter
  • Protection against special skills (Dodge)

0 voters

:question: What do you think of Jade compared to other Heroes?

  • Over Powered (OP)
  • Little stronger than Most
  • On Par with Most
  • Little Weaker than Most
  • Completely Broken (Under Powered)

0 voters

:question: How does Jadeā€™s Special Skill and Intended Purpose match Jadeā€™s Base Stats?

Note this means her Class, Attack, Defence & HP Stat

  • Perfectly
  • Better than Most
  • On Par with Most
  • Worse than Most
  • Terribly

0 voters

:question: Is Jade worth giving Monk Emblems to?

  • Yes absolutely
  • Depends on who else you got
  • Hmmmm, not sure yet
  • No I donā€™t think so
  • Noā€¦ Not at all.

0 voters

:question: In Defence, where do you think Jade is best used?

  • Left Wing
  • Left Flank
  • Tank
  • Right Flank
  • Right Wing
  • Not on defence at all.

0 voters

:question: How do you think Jade is best used?

  • PvP Raids/ War attack
  • Normal Defence
  • War Defence
  • Titans
  • Farming
  • Tournaments
  • Event Teams

0 voters

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Nice that the old ninjas now have an own topic each.

Jade, puh, what is there to sayā€¦
I was ā€œluckyā€ when I got her during the first tower with a few collected gems, my only other Ninja is ametrine (which I really like). I heard a lot of good stuff about ninjas in general and I had mageret, so I knew the dodge mechanic and thought I should level her.

That was a mistakeā€¦

I had her for a time with full emblems (no other heroes in this class) and tried her on defense. As tank she had worse results than telluria after her nerf even dropping out of diamond sometimes , on every other position it was even worse.

On offense she is completely useless if you want a dodge hero.
Yes she cuts mana, but on the first charge so little, that it doesnā€™t matter at all, because on offense you have to move stones after the manacut making it redundant.
And if I want a manacut hero I would take li who doesnā€™t need expensive 4* mats and also does damage.
**** it, even hƤnsel is better, preventing the opponent from firing at fast, for what do I need special skill dodge when the opponent doesnā€™t fire.

Here I compared in length the 3 green dodge heroes (mageret, kadilen c, Jade)

Overall, just a sad hero for me personally and the only 5* I regret giving mats.

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Jade should be re worked to be on pair with her ninja friends. Maybe if you start from the first ability giving the dodge to everyone instead just the caster?

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Sheā€™s not so bad when compared to other heroes but when you compare it with ninjas sheā€™s so lacking. Especially now with Ruby around. Ruby on 3rd charge removes all mana while Jade removes measly 25%. Also Ruby deals 370% damage to everyone and slows down their mana generation on top of everything else, while Jade just causes everyone to dodge specials (just specials) 3 times out of 4.

I am starting to think SGG overestimates dodge. Marge was also originally underwhelming and she had also dodge-based special. Ditto Inari. C-Kadilen is an exception, mostly because she is fast, deals damage too and her dodge also generates minions, while Jade causes just dodge.

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Yikes! From reading this, I am for sure leaving Jade on the bench! I have the other dodge heroes like Inari (who i defo might level up now), Marge, and C-K, all not levelled up, so Iā€™m defo not stuck for green dodgers. down to the bottom of my to-level-up for greens list you go, Jade! I reckon even Horg, with costume or notā€¦ might be better than her? :joy:

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She has always been terrible from the start, the one ninja you hope never to receive. She is the salmon Loki of the ninja portal

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Not all specials but only specials that do damage so you can dispel her dodge without a problem, her dodge itā€™s not like cKad or Inari.

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Absolutely. :rofl::rofl:

I have both c. Horghall and Jade and Groot would be my first choice if I had to choose between them. I got the ninja in the first ninja portal and sheā€™s still in 1.08. A complete garbage hero. And now the game releases Ruby, who must be saying: Do you see, Jade? Thatā€™s what you shouldā€™ve meant to be.

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jade is by far the worst 5* ninja

shale is the same for 4*

simple way to make shale like quartz

and jade gives dodge to all allies (she will still be bad but not garbage tier)

SG knows they are not viable but donā€™t want to change them for who knows reasons

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Simple, because ruby is jadeā€™s buff. Buffs donā€™t sell anything, new heroes do

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I dont think that Jade is worse than Horghallā€¦ I mean, she seems underwhelming if compared with the other Ninjas but if you compare her with other legendary heroes she seems a regular hero, nothing great, nothing special but usable for someone who doesnt have a big roster yet. I understand the dissapointing of pulling her anyways. Knowing that you ended pulling the most underwhelming of all ninjas with those low odds

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I have Jade, and a second Jade as well.

Maxed one of them and even had her emblemmed. I have to say, I like trying to find something good in heroes even if they are commonly hated. And so I did for Jade - in reverse double formation she was great center as even at second charge she casted the dodge on the whole team; mana cut is also handy on defense. Had Cobalt and Onyx to stand by her for perfect family bonus. It worked great, I have to say. Sadly, that setup went to **** when SG reworked the ā€˜nearbyā€™ mechanic in formations. Offensively, Jade doesnā€™t work at all. Her type of evade isnā€™t even the good one (canā€™t dodge everything, just the damaging specials) and it applying to all only on the slowest charge is a crime. Simple change of making the dodge CKadilen-like and applicable to all allies regardless of charge would fix her and make her on par with other Ninjas. SG says nope, letā€™s buff Feline.

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REALLY!? dang thatā€™s incredible, and after reading the other new comments hereā€¦ she rly is an awful pull to get, wow :joy:

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At least she must have and direct damage 8n range of Ruby

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This ninja desperately needs a buff. I mean, compare this hero to Ruby, or either of the other two new ones. How can you even consider them in the same league?

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She itā€™s not even in the league of the old heroes, not with the new one.

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Even S1 Kadilen is better. Kadilen at least does damage and is fast speed in addition to providing dodge. What exactly is Jadeā€™s purpose, other than to dilute the ninja summoning pool with a hero who is worse than Kadilen? Sad.

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What itā€™s worst than one Jade?
To get second one. I got and second Jade today, this portal itā€™s just closed for me, I donā€™t want/need third one(to be honest I donā€™t need and one).

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You will get all the salmon Lokis in the Valhalla portal