🦅 Väinämöinen – 5* Nature / Green from Legends of Kalevala

[PlayForFun]

New Legends of Kalevala hero is released: Väinämöinen

This thread is for discussing strategy related to Väinämöinen, as well as your thoughts on him.

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Väinämöinen

Rarity	Element	Class	Mana Speed
Legendary	Nature/Green	Sorcerer	F Fast

Level	Attack	Defense	Health
4/80	799	807	1481
4/85	861	870	1596
4/90	985	995	1826

Origin	Family
Legends of Kalevala	Kalevala

Image	Aether Power	Description
	Attack Up	At the start of each battle, this Hero gets +20% attack for 6 turns. In battles with multiple waves, the effect is refreshed at the beginning of each wave.

Ability: Power of Sisu When this character starts a turn with low health for the first time during a battle, they recover 15% health and receive 15% mana.

Special Skill: Song of Morass
Deals 270% damage to the target and nearby enemies. All enemies get -30% accuracy for 3 turns. Chance to miss also applies to offisive Special Skills. Against Fire characters, this status effect becomes uncleansable and lasts 2 turns longer.

All-in-one still under construction. Card image to be added when available.

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Family Bonus

Heroes become stronger when teamed with other unique Heroes of the same family.

Kalevala family
Bonus for 1 / 2 / 3 Heroes:

Receive -10% / -25% / -40% less damage from the Special Skills of the stronger element. (Fire)

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Balance Changes

Jun 2023 (Big Balance Update)

@EmpiresPuzzles

Väinämöinen

• Stats increased
  • Attack: 788 → 799
  • Defense: 797 → 807
  • Health: 1452 → 1481

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Changes from Beta

There appear to be no changes to Väinämöinen from last-seen Beta stats, skill, and design.

Beta Information: 🧪 Early Information on New Legends of Kalevala Heroes [Part of The Beta Beat v49]

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What do you think of Väinämöinen ?

This thread is for thoughts and discussion on Väinämöinen.

Based on preferences Forum members have expressed, please try to stick mainly to Väinämöinen and not wander off topic too much to other heroes.

Some Popular Questions for Discussion

• Is Väinämöinen worth summoning for?

• Would you use Väinämöinen on Defense? Offense? War? Quests/Events? Titans?

• Which heroes on your Roster best pair with Väinämöinen ?

• What heroes would you take when facing Väinämöinen as an opponent?

• Would you give Väinämöinen Sorcerer Emblems? Which Talent Grid path will you choose?

• What do you think of special?

• What do you think of Väinämöinen’s character design?

• If you Summoned Väinämöinen and would like to post your results, please include some thoughts on why you Summoned Väinämöinen, and whether/how you plan to make use of them.*

*NOTE: Summon Results posted without any commentary/feedback at all should be flagged as Off Topic and removed, based on preferences expressed by the Forum community. Please include some comments about what you think of Väinämöinen when posting Summon Results. In addition to opinions about Väinämöinen, you are also encouraged to include how many Summons it took before receiving Väinämöinen (or how many Summons you’ve done without receiving Väinämöinen), so other players are presented with realistic experiences of the rarity of Legendary Event Hero.

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Avoiding Overspending & Heartache

More Insights & Reading

I highly recommend reading these three threads for more information and context on summoning odds:

• How much should I spend?- HotM cost, and odds, analysis

• [WARNING] A Summons Experience - Chasing Guardian Panther - A Warning for Chasing Heroes

• What exactly is a Gacha? (Read before posting things about "unfair pulls")

If you’ve read them a million times before, you may consider reading them again before deciding on your budget for summoning. A little time spent deciding on how much money you want to risk on summoning goes a long way to avoiding disappointment, frustration, and regret later.

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Wondering About Your Personal Situation?

Feel free to discuss your team and roster here, and ask for advice from other Forum members.

If you’d like more extensive advice on sorting out your particular roster, I recommend creating a new thread in Gameplay Help & Tactics, and posting screenshots of your hero roster, along with your questions.

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Related Threads You May Be Interested In

• 🧪 Early Information on New Legends of Kalevala Heroes [Part of The Beta Beat v49]

[PlayForFun]

Feedback Poll - Väinämöinen (post release)

Is Väinämöinen worth Summoning For?

• Yes, absolutely
• Only if you’re P2P
• Yes, but only when featured.
• Not really
• Not at all

How many copies of Väinämöinen would be useful to keep & Level?

Note - this is roster space dependent & isn’t the same for everyone!

• Zero
• Just one
• 2
• 3
• All of them

What do you think Väinämöinen’s Primary Purpose is?

• Damage Dealer (Immediate)
• Accuracy Debuffer

What do you think of Väinämöinen compared to other Heroes?

• Over Powered (OP)
• Little stronger than Most
• On Par with Most
• Little Weaker than Most
• Completely Broken (Under Powered)

How does Väinämöinen’s Special Skill and Intended Purpose match Väinämöinen’s Base Stats?

Note this means her Class, Attack, Defence & HP Stat

• Perfectly
• Better than Most
• On Par with Most
• Worse than Most
• Terribly

Is Väinämöinen worth giving Sorcerer Emblems to?

• Yes absolutely
• Depends on who else you got
• Hmmmm, not sure yet
• No I don’t think so
• No… Not at all.

In Defence, where do you think Väinämöinen is best used?

• Left Wing
• Left Flank
• Tank
• Right Flank
• Right Wing
• Not on defence at all.

How do you think Väinämöinen is best used?

• PvP Raids/ War attack
• Normal Defence
• War Defence
• Titans
• Farming
• Tournaments
• Event Teams

Choose up to 3 options

What do you think is Väinämöinen worth Limit Breaking ?

• Yes
• No

If you would emblem Väinämöinen then which Emblem Path would you select ?

• Sword path
  (Selecing Attack talent nodes when possible)
• Shield path
  (Selecing Health and Shield talent nodes when possible)

[King_Kyree77]

Why are there two fast, hit three, green heroes in this portal? Then we have a fast, hit three, green HotM coming out in August. We had El Naddah in May, Silvaria in what? April…? Variety is key, but with nature heroes, there appears to be none.

[ProfessorPenguin]

@King_Kyree77

two fast, hit three, green heroes in this portal? Then we have a fast, hit three, green HotM coming out in August. We had El Naddah in May, Silvaria in what? April

Don’t forget average speed hit 3’s Guan Yu amd Liu Bei came out in the same time frame also!

[Nightmare2048]

Got and maxed Guan Yu recently who is charged with 2 more tiles, but does 390% to three and defense down as well (though heavily dependent on minions). Not really impressed with this one.

[Tidyup]

He is easily the most boring one of the group. The one thing that sets him apart from heroes like peridot is his blind is always AOE.

[u2371]

Drake Fong → Dr. Moreau → Väinämöinen

Evolution without damage increase

[Marktanner]

I can see this guy paired with C-Kadilen, fast blind+dodge

[Noxyking]

El Nada and future hit-3 HOTM is better.

[BanGan]

I don’t think I’ll ever say his name without mistakes. Maybe I’ll practice when I catch him

[Noxyking]

What if after you waste 3 green matches and cast your special, then you don’t get another 3 green matches within 3 turns? Opponents are still alive and then you’re dead.

Blind and dodge can help you survive a few rounds, but you need to kill them as a priority. You can’t always assume you’ll get the tiles you need each turn.

[NoRecesso]

I’ve got him today.

Since I love Dr M certainly this guy will have a spot in my green team. But Guan Yu, C Kadilen and Ratatorsky are on the line for leveling

[Hrothgor]

This guy is much better than people give him credit for. A party wide accuracy decrease is great.

[Noxyking]

This hero needs a buff. Blind should be 44-50%

[Rduke77]

It’s just like regular Drake/Moreau…with less blind %. I guess he’s green? He’s pretty lackluster IMO.

[Hrothgor]

He hits all instead of three with his minus accuracy, which at a mere 5% less isnt that noticeable and makes him better. In my playtesting, hes been solid. I expected less from him as well but after actually playing him, I just think hes getting a much worse rap than he deserves. In no way am I arguing against a buff though. He shouldnt be doing less damage than El Naddaha.

[Kenzo]

That’s a good callout, I missed that detail and thought it was only blind to 3 (not all)

[byzanthia]

I want to like this guy but feel his 270% to 3 is underwhelming, given how the strongest hit-3 green is already now up to 390% to three. The accuracy debuff is nice, but you can’t rely on it. I feel he should be doing 300% to three. 270% to three feels outdated.

[Cerevan_the_Omni]

Yeah, my mistake…

I also thought that he does accuracy to 3 but to all he is alot better… immediately went to pull from this portal again /beacuse of your post) and got him in 15 pulls from so thanks

[Cerevan_the_Omni]

Still think he needs some % up, either dmg or accuracy.

Kadilen has 45% and is basically same effect at same speed.