February 2022 Balance Update - Discussion

[Petri]

Please share your thoughts on the upcoming balance changes here!

Announcement:

February 2022 Balance Update - Details & Release Notes

Welcome to the February 2022 Balance Update! Over the past year, we’ve bolstered our efforts to foster healthy Hero diversity at all tiers of play; some of our more recent moves include creating new Legends Families (October) and applying varnish to our Villains’ vices (December). This month, we are making tweaks to the Winter, Starfall, and Magic Families. As always, we will keep an eye on live metrics following the update to determine whether further adjustments will be necessary. Please ref…

Make sure to also check out our FAQ on hero balancing:

Hero Balancing FAQ

Why do you balance Heroes after release? Ideally, all new Heroes would be perfectly balanced before they are released. We carefully test them internally, as well as in the Beta program. Unfortunately, some Heroes can still be too powerful either by themselves or combined with another Hero. The only way to know for sure is based on the real data from the game. We understand that adjustments to the Heroes in the live game may be disappointing. However, we are confident that these changes are nec…

[Guvnor]

General Feedback Polls

These are of a general nature only.

Winter Family

Elf Minions – Nerf

HP and attack of all elf minions reduced

• Nescessary & Good
• Nescessary but Not Enough
• Nescessary but Too Much
• Unnescessary

Costume Krampus – Nerf

Stat rebalance; Class change to Barbarian, Buffs reduced to 3 turns, Defence buff reduced
Link to Hero: 🎅 Costumed Krampus -- 5* Ice/ Blue from Santa's Challenge (Winter)

• Nescessary & Good
• Nescessary but Not Enough
• Nescessary but Too Much
• Unnescessary

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Starfall Family

Directory Zuri – Buff

More healing (both lowest HP & for rest); clown minions attack & HP buffed
Link to Hero: 🎪 Director Zuri – 5* Holy/ Yellow from Starfall Circus

• Nescessary & Good
• Nescessary but Not Enough
• Nescessary but Too Much
• Unnescessary

Eiora & Fluffy – Buff

Damage increased, Max HP reduction improved.
Link to Hero: 🎪 Eiora & Fluffy – 5* Nature/ Green from Starfall Circus

• Nescessary & Good
• Nescessary but Not Enough
• Nescessary but Too Much
• Unnescessary

Emilio – Buff

Burn increased; both base and bonus.
Link to Hero: 🎪 Emilio – 5* Fire/ Red from Starfall Circus

• Nescessary & Good
• Nescessary but Not Enough
• Nescessary but Too Much
• Unnescessary

Theobald – Buff

Damage increased, attack buff changed to berserk buff.
Link to Hero: 🎪 Theobald – 5* Ice/ Blue from Starfall Circus

• Nescessary & Good
• Nescessary but Not Enough
• Nescessary but Too Much
• Unnescessary

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Magic Family

Agrafena – Buff

1x charge ailments improved; 2x charge buffs & Heal over time increased.
Link to Hero: 🧙 Agrafena – 5* Dark / Purple from Tower of Magic

• Nescessary & Good
• Nescessary but Not Enough
• Nescessary but Too Much
• Unnescessary

Anastasia – Buff

1x charge Minions increased; 2x charge direct damage increased.
Link to Hero: 🧙 Anastasia – 4* Holy / Yellow from Tower of Magic

• Nescessary & Good
• Nescessary but Not Enough
• Nescessary but Too Much
• Unnescessary

Anton – Buff

1x charge damage & accuracty improved; 2x charge revival & Hp improved.
Link to Hero: 🧙 Anton – 4* Nature / Green from Tower of Magic

• Nescessary & Good
• Nescessary but Not Enough
• Nescessary but Too Much
• Unnescessary

Cristobal – Buff

1x & 2x charge damage increased.
Link to Hero: 🧙 Cristóbal – 5* Nature / Green from Tower of Magic

• Nescessary & Good
• Nescessary but Not Enough
• Nescessary but Too Much
• Unnescessary

Dolgoon – Buff

1x charge damage share & defence buff improved.
Link to Hero: 🧙 Dölgöön – 3* Nature / Green from Tower of Magic

• Nescessary & Good
• Nescessary but Not Enough
• Nescessary but Too Much
• Unnescessary

Milena – Buff

1x charge healing improved; 2x charge damage increased.
Link to Hero: 🧙 Milena – 5* Ice / Blue from Tower of Magic

• Nescessary & Good
• Nescessary but Not Enough
• Nescessary but Too Much
• Unnescessary

Motega – Buff

Stat rebalance; 1x charge minion stats increased & ailment duration increased; 2x charge fiend healing stolen increased.
Link to Hero: 🧙 Motega – 5* Holy / Yellow from Tower of Magic

• Nescessary & Good
• Nescessary but Not Enough
• Nescessary but Too Much
• Unnescessary

Nadezhda – Buff

2x charge revival improved.
Link to Hero: 🧙 Nadezhda – 5* Fire / Red from Tower of Magic

• Nescessary & Good
• Nescessary but Not Enough
• Nescessary but Too Much
• Unnescessary

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Season 4

Final Stage (36-10) Battle Difficulty – Nerfed

Crystal Shields reduced; shade fiends reduced; devouring depths biome effect removed.
Link to Discussion Thread: 🕵 End of an Era (Part 3) -- Season 4 Completion Thread

• Nescessary & Good
• Nescessary but Not Enough
• Nescessary but Too Much
• Unnescessary

Random High Stat stages removed

33-8, 34-2, 34-7, 35-5, 35-7 & 36-2; these stage enemies had stats like double their surrounding stages.
Link to Bug thread:

• Nescessary & Good
• Nescessary but Not Enough
• Nescessary but Too Much
• Unnescessary

[Toum10]

Why the hell my old MN and 1 year old Krampus will be nerf because of YOUR mistake with your crappy costume that majority of the players didn’t want. Once again it’s unfair

[IgH]

Balance changes should be beta tested
Balance changes should be beta tested

And in case that wasn’t clear, Balance changes should be beta tested.

This also smells like a money grab. i.e Starfall circus is coming up again so buff them now to get more people to pull for them. Ditto for Magic Tower.

Do you know which other heroes don’t see much play?

S1, S2, and several HOTM. Where are their buffs?

[ABadSeed]

oh damn!!! that’s quite the nerf! 20 chars of saving my next blue limit break for something other than mr k now!

[CHENZ]

Wtf!!!
Just wtf!!!

Stupidity on another level!

You already introduced a Minion that gonna steal Buff, and lots of Anti Minion Heroes, yet you still nerf Heroes that we can hope and get using EHT.
And buff others that probably use money to get.

Oh wow!

And for Note that Director Zuri is gonna heal in Total like more than 70% of your health combine with Minion and Mana Troops.

One time buff is bad. And yet another Buff for her?
Are you out of your mind?

How ■■■■■■■■ stupid is that?!!!

[Mr.Sabaton]

This is becoming actual bait and switch. They release op heroes so people will break the bank pulling for them then they say “sorry they are taking over the meta, we have to nerf” and they nerf them back to a state where they should have been on release. So guys dont chase heroes, chances are even if you get it it may get a huge nerf later.

[The_Seeker]

LMAO! So in March we have Starfall Circus again ?! And way to go making some OP heroes even more OP…

And is costume Krampus still worth anything after this? Well, it doesn’t matter, people will not be able to pull for him for another 10 months and they have plenty of time to do more “balance adjustments” until then.

The only ones that really needed the buffs were the Magic heroes, except for Milena and Cristobal, who were already very strong.

My feeling is that this will only increase the gap between those who spend a lot (like over 100$ per month) and those who do not.

[Mr.Sabaton]

I cant even imagine how beta testers could feel about these. Or anyone who told SG not to release non S1 costumes because they will break the meta. They didnt listen released OP heroes that broke the meta to make money then they realised its not good for the longetivity of the game so they switch. And im saying this without even having C. Krampus.

[ProfLoki]

Hate the nerfs. But I am fine with buffs. Sad that it so obvious money grab and no old heroes really needing it. But in my opinion no hero should ever get nerfed. It is simply bad business to first sell something and than take it away again.

[Greengoo]

Tellygate v. 2.0
Just scale of nerf is little lesser - C Krampus is not as popular as Telly once was.

A funny comparison of two heroes, who do quite the same:
Director Zuri vs Delilah:

• healt for all: 42% vs 30%
• healt for ally with lowest healt: 65% vs 30%
• minion healt: 15% vs 13%
• minion attack: 22% vs 16%
• Delilah’s element link: 10% mana for holy allies.
• EDIT: Director Zuri cleanses

No need to add, that both are average mana. Balance changes, indeed.

[The_Seeker]

Yes, but this is an opportunity to release a costume for Delilah in some months

[Mr.Sabaton]

And they call these “Balance change” more like “Putting out fires we started on purpose to make tons of cash” how many heroes we have that need actual Balance change but never get it because they are not primary money makers? Tons of heroes just sitting on the bench because their design is flawed from the start or another hero was released who does the same thing but better in every aspect? For example Mok-arr, nobody uses him because Killhare does the same thing but better (and who gets stronger? Yes Killhare with costume) Jade is a joke and always has been and so on and so on. Im cutting my spending down to bare minimum from now on.

[CHENZ]

You forgot to mention that Zuri also cleanse. What a balance!

[Greengoo]

Which you need to pull just a an other hero. Costumes for hotms and other non classic heroes for me are just another heroes…

[CHENZ]

Next month we will see another what they called BALANCE

Buff all the Slayer of Fell Shadow Heroes
Cause on March we need to grab more MONEY

[Guvnor]

Polls injected; have at it folks

[Mr.Sabaton]

At this point i dont see any guarantee they dont switch them all to vf speed then as soon as the event close they say “they are taking over the meta so back to slow”

[Star150m]

why nerf winter family without any compensation???

krampus costume isn’t a problem. you can “solve” this by buffing other heros (noor says hi) and introduce HoTM who can deal with minions properly.

plus, making him barbarian… you basically know that barbarian is the worst class

NERFING IS NOT A SOLUTION. YOU ARE LOSING YOUR REMAINING PLAYERS TRUST