📯 Lord Loki – New Season 3 Hero – 5* Ice/ Blue: Thoughts, Discussion & Summon Results with Feedback

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New Season 3 Hero Releasing: Lord Loki!

Lord Loki
Rarity Element Class
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Legendary		 :snowflake:
Ice/ Blue		 image
Wizard
Mana Speed Attack Defense Health
A
Average 		:crossed_swords:
774 		:shield:
743 		:heart:
1312
Origin Realm
Season 3 Jotunheim
:dizzy: Special Skill: Trickster’s Mischief
  • Copies target’s Special Skill and uses it as if it was the caster’s own Special Skill.
  • If the target does not have a Special Skill, or it can’t be copied, the following Special Skill will be cast:

    Villain Swing
  • Deals 275% damage to the target.
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:test_tube: Changes from Beta

There appear to be no changes to Lord Loki from the last-seen Beta stats, skill, and design.

:thought_balloon: What do you think of Lord Loki?

This thread is for thoughts and discussion on Lord Loki.

Based on preferences Forum members have expressed, please try to stick mainly to Lord Loki and not wander off topic too much to other heroes.

Some Popular Questions for Discussion

  • Is Lord Loki worth summoning for?

  • Would you use Lord Loki on Defense? Offense? War? Quests/Events? Titans?

  • Which heroes on your Roster best pair with Lord Loki?

  • What heroes would you take when facing Lord Loki as an opponent?

  • Would you give Lord Loki Wizard? Which Talent Grid path will you choose?

  • What do you think of Lord Loki’s special?

  • What do you think of Lord Loki’s character design?

  • If you Summoned Lord Loki and would like to post your results, please include some thoughts on why you Summoned Lord Loki, and whether/how you plan to make use of him.*

*NOTE: Summon Results posted without any commentary/feedback at all should be flagged as Off Topic and removed, based on preferences expressed by the Forum community. Please include some comments about what you think of Lord Loki when posting Summon Results. In addition to opinions about Lord Loki, you are also encouraged to include how many Summons it took before receiving Lord Loki (or how many Summons you’ve done without receiving Lord Loki), so other players are presented with realistic experiences of the rarity of Season 3 Heroes.

:money_with_wings: Avoiding Overspending & Heartache :broken_heart:
Or: How many summons are needed to get a Valhalla Featured Legendary Hero?
Below odds are current as of June 30, 2020. Odds will change as additional S3 5* heroes are added to the “non-featured” hero pool.

It’s important to remember that Season 3 Valhalla Heroes have EXTREMELY low summoning odds. No amount of summoning will guarantee a Season 3 Hero.

On average, in a 10-pull, you have a 1.43% chance of summoning Lord Loki.

But that statistic can lead our minds astray in exactly how our odds play out as we continue summoning.

Some useful insights:

  • 13 times out of 100, you’ll get Lord Loki by pull 100
  • 51 times out of 100, you’ll get Lord Loki by pull 500
  • 76 times out of 100, you’ll get Lord Loki by pull 1500
  • 89 times out of 100, you’ll get Lord Loki by pull 1500
  • 95 times out of 100, you’ll get Lord Loki by pull 2073
  • 99 times out of 100, you’ll get Lord Loki by pull 3186

Putting that in Perspective

Gems cost $99.99 US for 10,000. A 30x Summons costs $83.99 US.

  • 87 out of every 100 people won’t get Lord Loki by the 100th pull.

  • If 1 Million players each spent $281.97 USD to summon 100 times, 870,000 of those players wouldn’t get Lord Loki.

  • 5 out of every 100 people won’t get Lord Loki by the 2073rd pull.

  • If 1 Million players each spent $5,805.92 USD to summon 2073 times, 50,000 of those players wouldn’t get Lord Loki.

More Insights & Reading

I highly recommend reading these threads for more information and context on summoning odds:

If you’ve read them a million times before, you may consider reading them again before deciding on your budget for summoning. A little time spent deciding on how much money you want to risk on summoning goes a long way to avoiding disappointment, frustration, and regret later. :slight_smile:

:link: Related Threads

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Since when does Loki do a mindless attack?
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Feedback Poll - Lord Loki (post release)

:question: Is Lord Loki worth Summoning For?

  • Yes, absolutely
  • Only if you’re P2P
  • Yes, but only if you’re summoning for someone else.
  • Yes, but only when the Featured Hero
  • Not really
  • Not at all

0 voters

:question: How many copies of Lord Loki would be useful to keep & Level?

Note - this is roster space dependent & isn’t the same for everyone!

  • zero
  • Just one
  • 2
  • 3
  • All of them

0 voters

:question: What do you think of Lord Loki compared to other Heroes?

  • Over Powered (OP)
  • Little stronger than Most
  • On Par with Most
  • Little Weaker than Most
  • Completely Broken (Under Powered)

0 voters

:question: How does Lord Loki’s Special Skill and Intended Purpose match his Base Stats?

Note this means his Class, Attack, Defence & HP Stat

  • Perfectly
  • Better than Most
  • On Par with Most
  • Worse than Most
  • Terribly

0 voters

:question: Is Lord Loki worth giving Wizard Emblems to?

  • Yes absolutely
  • Depends on who else you got
  • Hmmmm, not sure yet
  • No, I don’t think so
  • No… Not at all.

0 voters

:question: In Defence, where do you think Lord Loki is best used?

  • Left Wing
  • Left Flank
  • Tank
  • Right Flank
  • Right Wing
  • Not on defence at all.

0 voters

:question: How do you think Lord Loki is best used?

  • PvP Raids/ War attack
  • Normal Defence
  • War Defence
  • Titans
  • Farming
  • Tournaments
  • Event Teams

0 voters

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Owned both Lokis! At least I won’t feel bad not getting krampus now

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#5

He is basically Rumpelstiltskin 2.0 on defence because you don’t know what you’re casting. I can imagine a luck based team; him, rumplestiltskin and the new hotm malicna. All their skills randomised and heavy luck based

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#6

How does his special work?

You can select which special to copy but you can’t select the target to attack, is the casting random?

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#7

Unusable on defense, can be good on offense

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#9

It uses the skill on the target.

So if Lord Loki targets Lianna, he will copy Lianna’s skill & use it on Lianna.

If Lord Loki targets Isarnia, he will copy Isarnia’s skill but obviously the cast will be on all enemies.

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#11

A little bit of showcase of our forever favourite! :wink:

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#12

At first I thought the copying of skills is permanent, little bit of a bummer. But if it’s permanent he’s a little too OP I guess. He can’t really copy the skills of a sniper and then use it against anybody. So he can really only be used against aoe enemies and support enemies. Yes…I’m basically owning a black Knight on my team already

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#13

He is very good against slow AoE and slow healers like Kunchen.
And can replace healer in war (if opposing team have a healer).

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#14

Best random Team :

Rumple - Lady Loki - Alfrike - Hatter - Lord Loki

Let the games begin :wink:

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#15

His presence alone adds pressure on Def. Because you don’t know what skill he’s using. Rumple is said to be already terrifying to face on Def, imagine lord loki…

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#16

I thought featured heroes get higher chances of pulling… 0.3%? Come on :confused:

I really wanted him … I have 0 5* from Valhalla …

#17

@Kerberusz congrats!

how does he copy ninjas?
my guess is always charge 1?
and obviously how would he copy himself XD? the same swing attack?

and against red titan, how would it be like? will he do the same burn or will it scale down to his attack stat?

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#18

One of best hero concepts in game. Definitely going to be fun to play.

Too bad I will probably never pull him and I don’t expect to face him on defense, so he might as well not exist :man_shrugging:

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#19

He is a deterant against slow powerful specials than.

But i think he might be to niche to be reliable.
the more heros die, the less choices he has to target

Not being able to target the hit him situational.

e. g. vs Hit 3 heros in the corner he wastes the special

#20

Yup, there’s definitely downsides to him, I agree. But that doesn’t change what I said about him being fun to play.

I was trying to pull Drake Fong for years now and nada. Only got my butt kicked by hundreds of Drakes through the game. With Loki I could feed Drake his own medicine whenever I damn want. Same for Finleys, Friggs, Ursenas, White Rabbits and all the other monsters. Yea, he will be most effective against Owls and Alfrikes. But satisfying - I guess most of the time. I have Mitsuko, I have Lady Loki - seeing enemy die eating their own **** is almost like poetry.

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#21

%100 agree

he is not worth to chase. niche and useful at ofense. frigg is far better

#22

Well, I think he can be really fun and useful in offense. His ability to copy slow and average skills from powerful heroes will be nice, I guess. That’s unique, and I love it.

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#23

On the otherside he will age well. Because the more heros are released the more good heros he can copy.

I see he has a decent attack stat which makes him a good damage dealer. Does he copy elemental links (also from other colors)?

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