⚖ Hero Balance Discussion: Esme

This thread is for discussing whether Esme is well-balanced, or whether you think he needs a buff or nerf.

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:bar_chart: Poll

  • I think Esme is reasonably well-balanced overall
  • I think Esme is excessively weak, and needs a buff (increase of their strength)
  • I think Esme is excessively strong, and needs a nerf (decrease of their strength)
  • I’m not sure yet

0 voters


:speaking_head: Discussion

  • If you think Esme is well-balanced, too strong, or too weak — why?

  • Are there specific, concrete suggestions you’d make to the game designers to alter Esme ? Or are there specific reasons you think they should remain unchanged?


Purpose of this thread:

To provide an aggregate place for the topic here on the forum; thus preventing there being a million threads popping up. And to provide an actual set of impartial votes rather than a #ideas-feature-requests which has no real voting.

In short, to neaten the forum and to give players and outlet for their thoughts on his balance without bogging down the rest of the forum or the other Esme thread.

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It maybe too late for a buff this time round, so next time I guess. All I want is just more healing, even 48% would justify her lack of skills outside of a fiend battle

I would keep 40% but add that she removes status ailments or maybe even she cleanse all ailments even those that can’t be cleansed. I think it would make her a pretty good hero.

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Yeah, by doing that she is the one that counteracts raven family bonus

Removing “if” from last part of special would be enough probably tbh. Changing healing to extended health would make her top tier.

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She needs a guaranteed buff at her special skill description because at activation in any kind of fight she will not cast anything to count as buff except in some raids with fiends or those special stages on Challenge Festival. Same thing for Eloise, but she is a Raven with conditional chance to bring aliment

Removing the conditional part of her special is all that Esme needs in order to be a reasonable hero.

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I have been lucky in this portal and have three of the 5* from each of the wolf and raven families and she is the only one who hasn’t gotten the max treatment. All the others were maxed without any second thoughts.

Personally I think Esme is currently well balanced (in my opinion).
She 100% doesn’t need a nerf.
But at the same time if you gave her a buff that could quite possibly put her into a different league of heroes. And at the moment there is too much power creep in the game, so I don’t vote to add to it.
Just my two pennies worth

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I think Esme should be either fast or have an increase mana buff. Being a hero on Clash of Knights and having lower performance than normal ariel, especially costumed and generally performing less than most 5 star healers, isn’t good. The way Esme is created makes her weak in defence teams raids/war/tournament. She is not good even in Season 4 Hard were I prefer to use melendor/rigard/boldtust limit broken or vivica cotume. Not to mention titans. Esme as a Clash of Knight should be elit hero and not just another healer as reserve.

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Two sides to the coin I guess. If SG is going to make these premium portals with powerful summons than Esme really should get a buff. Same goes with Jade. Everyone feels crushed when they summon and get an S1 hero, but it’s even more brutal when you save up your summons (or buy a bunch) and you get an Esme or Jade. Seems like an even bigger kick in the nuts honestly, because you finally get a non-season 1 and it’s crap. So if SG is going to buff units in premium summons, than Esme should be buffed. If they just want to keep them in line with non premium summons, than she doesn’t need a buff. They’ve already done the former, so for consistency sake Esme should get a boost.

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In all premium portals, there are elite heroes and less than stellar heroes. SG has no interest in making all heroes in one portal elite, such that players will have to pull more just to get the elite ones (i.e., they will get some of the less than stellar ones, dupes and will have to pull more until they get the ones they really wanted).

Blue has the most and best 5* healers. It is very difficult for her to compete. What she is offering isn’t enough and she is too niche and has to fire AFTER the fiends are summoned to be useful… waiting is risky and likely someone in her team would die.
i agree that the minimum she needs is to have the fiend protection always active regardless if she cleansed fiends or not.

Personally I’d even rather use kiril/kiril costume over her for a the much better utility he offers in comparison.

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I have her and no intention to work her up.

Too many blue healers. I find Ariel and Zircon more universal. And I have Gaillard for fiends.

She’s OK, but if scopes were growing on trees. Else I always have a more needed hero to work on. Not sure what would convince me though. Maybe removing the condition on fiend protection and making it last longer would be a good start.

I’d agree, if that has been the case, but it really hasn’t. All the Starfall are pretty good. Wouldn’t be upset pulling any of those. Pretty much the same now with Slayers and Villains. The only ones with less than stellar are this one and maybe some suspect ones on 3 Kingdom, but that’s brand new. Possible we’ll see buffs in a few months. That just leaves Jade in the ninjas. I see people complaining about Eloise, but she seems alright to me for what she does. My two cents anyway.

Feel like it’d be nice if they added some debuff to fiend makers. Like, “all fiend makers get -52% defense against blue for 3 turns” or even “all fiend makers lose 18% mana”. Some kind of extra affect against fiend makers to keep her niche, but more powerful.

Yea but the common theme for Wolf family is they have buffs, and not debuffs. Debuffs are in Raven.

That’s fine, they can add a buff like “allies that received fiends get 18% mana”. Would add another level of complexity to her use for sure. Anything along the lines of fiend interaction like that.

I actually don’t think she is in need of a buff. She has a specialist purpose: Attacking fiend dealers. On an attack team against Elizabeth or other fiend spawners, she is great. I like SG bringing out specialist heroes. It give the game more complexity and balance and if they had more, it would slow down power creep.

I find it incredibly offensive that Esme is left untouched in this state and heroes like Arco absolutely dominates over this hero when it comes to fiend control a few months later.
Although one glaring weakness for Arco is that he easily falters to anti minion heroes, which esme would have no problems with.
But that is only a backhanded advantage Esme has over Arco.
This hero needs some form of balancing to make her come out from her niche.

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