Should I use Wu kong Buff before use attacking skill (attacking titan)?

[u2371]

Original Question

When I bring Wu Kong and Joon to attack titan, it is usually that both hero get full mana in the same time.
Should I use Wu Kong skill before use Joon skill ?
Wu Kong can make Joon skill miss but also make Joon skill do more damage.
I don’t care much about attacking skill miss on titan if it is better on average damage.

Now, I know that tile damage is main damage on titan about 90% (10% for special skill damage) and Joon skill’s blind effect is more important than main damage.

So, I think I should change to Lianna and Kadilen.

The new question is,

When I bring Lianna, Kadilen and Wu Kong to attack water titan and Lianna, Kadilen and Wu Kong get full mana in the same time, should I use Wu Kong skill before use Lianna and Kadilen skill ?
Wu Kong can make Lianna and Kadilen skill miss but also make Joon skill do more damage.
I don’t care much about attacking skill miss on titan if it is better on average damage.

I really want to know because I have only Wu Kong that can boost huge damage on titan, I have to use him on every titan (except rare yellow that reflect yellow).
If I know which way is better, maybe, it can increase titan damage by 3-5% but it is still better than nothing.

[jesse1]

The tile damage matters much more than the dmg from special skill. I’d use Joon before Wu so the titan gets the chance to miss.

[Gryphonknight]

Normal damage

@jesse1

The tile damage matters much more than the dmg from special skill.

I agree

Notes

See also the following Wu Kong posts:

Click for notes

@Gryphonknight

Wu Kong Grinder Gang

(Wu Kong grinder gang or Powerful rainbow auto play team or Wu Kong plus 4 healers )

WuKong Debuff Duo

@Gryphonknight

Regular defense debuffers

Since you are not using a mono red 4* team, use regular defense debuffers, not elemental defense debuffers.

This gives you the advantage of Gambler’s stance, and defense debuff, with all five of your attacking heroes.

Ramming Pulverizer

As a general rule of thumb, I tend to use Wu Kong Debuff Duo against single/ triple bosses so I prefer Ramming Pulverizer since it has a longer duration than Wonderful Feast ( Wilbur ) and Gift sack ( Buddy ).

The longer duration is helpful when the first debuffer misses multiple enemies but the second debuffer results in all enemies having a defense debuff.

Double healers

Wu Kong Cascade Squad

([Play Style] The cascade squad or Wu Kong+ two healers- New Notes 2019-Mar )

FIN

[Math-Teacher]

I’m cheap and usually bring arrows to a Titan. I’d only fire Joon before Wu if I needed the blind.

I’m not concerned with SS damage on a Titan.

[u2371]

@jesse1 @Gryphonknight

I think shouldn’t ask about skill because his skill also blind. (I forgot about blind.)
Now, I know that tile damage is main damage on titan about 90% (10% for special skill damage) and Joon skill’s blind effect is more important than main damage.

So, I change Joon to Lianna and Kadilen which their skill don’t apply and ailments.

Should I use Wu Kong skill before use Lianna and Kadilen skill if they all get full mana in the same time ?

I really want to know because I use Wu Knog in every titan (except rare yellow that reflect yellow).
If I know which way is better, maybe, it can increase titan damage by 3-5% but it is still bter than nothing.

@Math-Teacher

So, if you don’t need needed the blind, do you fire Joon after Wu ?

[Math-Teacher]

Yep, if a blind is already applied, I gamble and fire Wu then Joon.

Boom or bust.

[u2371]

@Math-Teacher Thank you.

I still use Joon before Wu because I need blind and don’t use arrow to attack titan.
(In fact, I used to use arrow to attack titan every titan too but now I don’t have enough material to do like that again and it look like giant harpoon do much better job.)

When I have to attack water titan, I will Lianna and Kadilen skill after Wu for damage.
I believe in mathematician choice.

[Math-Teacher]

It also depends on the titan level.

But for all titans: tile damage > special skill damage

[Sernarok]

If you care anything for the hero’s special skill, you NEVER use Wu Kong first.

Example:

My green ttian team is Wilbur, Boldtusk, Falcon, Aruna and Wu, set them up in that order and activate them from left to right.

If Wu charges first, I hold him off until the rest of the team do, except for Aruna, who makes low damage and whose DOT is really low in a titan fight.

So in my yellow team, where I do have a Joon myself, I never activate Wu before Joon, leaving the titan blind is more important than to deal 400 extra damage with special.

[Sernarok]

@Math-Teacher

It also depends on the titan level.

Exactly, in lower titans the chance to miss is ok, but in 10*+ titans, whenever titan doesn’t miss, it kills someone, so axe + green flag works better

[Math-Teacher]

And that also depends on your alliance, resources and titan, too.

We are 30 deep (goooo Crew-Jesterssss!) and I have no issue taking antidotes and arrows for survival (12-13*’s).

[lordabed]

Wu always last to fire. What u are going to gain from John or anybody fires after him. 1k more damage useless. Titan is about tiles one tile will give u more.