🍵 Riddles of Wonderland: Shrubbear – Thoughts, Discussion & Summon Results with Feedback

[Guvnor]

Hmm see I disagree

It’s been my view from the outset that he’s a better flank than tank.

Reason being that you want him to be alive when the enemy specials are charged, meaning you want him somewhat sheltered from tile damage.

I’ve been running him in all the 3* tournaments since his release at flank. In all those tourneys I’ve gotten A rank defence (no emblems on any of the heroes).

I think he’s best suited behind another hero who can soak up the tiles and punish the enemies for sending tiles at them. Shrubbear is just a passive tank, too passive for my liking.

Imho, best tanks in the 3* arena are ones like Gill-ra (bloody battle), Bauchen (all), Armen (v.f, bloody battle), jhangir (v.f), Ulmer (v.f) etc…

Shrubbear is by far my pick of flanks.

Shrubbear also differs slightly from BK and QH who both have benefits beyond just the taunt. BK has a chance for all incoming damage and QoH has the minion and a direct damage component.

[Gryphonknight]

Shrubbear missing Bauchan

@Guvnor

It’s been my view from the outset that he’s a better flank than tank.

A slow flank, except in Rush Attack, might not fire before the center is destroyed by tiles.

Shrubbear and Bauchan ( together they fight crime)

So Healer, Bauchan, Shrubbear would make a good center and flanks since Bauchan helps with mana generation.

But this depends on the resistant color ( see notes ). Often the resistant color decides which center, and flanks, make the Top 1000 defense teams.

Tournaments are … confusing

@Guvnor

In all those tourneys I’ve gotten A rank defence (no emblems on any of the heroes).

That does not necessarily mean he is a good defense hero, that does means he is over powered for his Team power ( insert Elo rant here).

If he is 3*+20, attacked 300 times in battle day 3, and A rated, then I would believe ( insert defense points rant here ).

Conclusion

We will just have to agree to disagree.

Notes

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More defense hits

@Gryphonknight

This roughly means the more times you are attacked during a tournament, the better your defense team is likely to be.

Resistant color

@Gryphonknight

Strong color stacking works.

By the same math, yellow heroes will be more resistant to tile damage than any other color.

Previous tournament allowed all colors so no resistant colors. This is similar to elemental shields in challenge events.

Elemental shields

@Gryphonknight

==Elemental shields or Reflect color enemies==

When you fight an enemy with an elemental shield, it is weak to a color, strong to a color and REFLECTS a color. Example: A Reflect green boss takes double damage from Red heroes, half damage from Blue heroes, and reflects all damage from Green heroes back to that hero. So a triple red, no blue, no green team OR a double red, double yellow/ double purple, no blue no green team works better than a rainbow team. Example you can remove your Blue 4* 3.60 and Green 4* 3.60 heroes and replace them with one Red 3* 3.50 hero and one Purple/ Yellow 3* 3.50 hero.

So having a rainbow 3* 3.50 and a rainbow 4* 3.60 lets you take on Reflect color enemies until you level up a second rainbow 3* 3.50, second rainbow 4* 3.60, etc.

FIN

[averagejoe33]

Just got the bear but recently maxed out By Ulf

Who would make the better tank?

[Tellybelly]

What is the best emblem route for this bear? Could you please consider including a “best emblem route” in poll form for future hero discussions?

[MilkBone]

If his skill is active, would an opponent still be able to cast fiends on my allies or will there only be 1 for shrubby?

[MilkBone]

btw, one of the first posts on this thread recommended full def path and that his def/health stats are pretty great. Of course, that was a few years ago, but still. I just maxed him, but no emblems or LB and Def is already at 512 with health at 888. I found a neat talent simulator, so you can see what a hero’s emblem path potential might be. Going Def / Health / Atk, puts him at

Attack: 381 (lol)
Def: 617 (hey now)
Health: 1032

Talent Simulator

[ferg]

Only he will get the fiend.

I like taunters against fiend makers.

[wilmarzop]

What will happen, if two or more of him or other taunts are active at the same time?

[wilmarzop]

I don’t know what happens if it is a sniper.. .

[Jurtsi]

Here’s a LB full emblem Shrub.
Went Def-HP-Att route, defensive stats are pretty sweet.

[Saros]

@wilmarzop

I don’t know what happens if it is a sniper.. .

You get to pick either of the taunters with a sniper. Also if you have an AoE hitting the taunter (s), it will hit both.

@Jurtsi yeah the bear is ok, I LB mine by mistake, looks the same as yours. Low tile damage though.

[Ugk26]

Ok, I wanted to post in here because I am having a great experience with shrubbear in this 3 star rush no ice this week. My defense is great but it also has two treevils and a sudri with high level troops, so no surprise there.

What shocked me was how well he did on offense. He can really eat those hits from treevil. You see shrubbear about to get hit by Treevil and sudri and you’re just bracing for death. And it looked like it did almost no damage. Absolutely bonkers how strong he is.

Imho, in the few battles I’ve used him so far, he is invaluable in rush against Treevil. Or any serious hitter, and there are a few now. He prevented Sally’s chaining effect. He limited Bauchan mana cut. Even if he dies quickly, which he rarely did, those 2 turns of protection were enough to buy me my matches.

I write this since I’m sure people will get him and it seems he wasn’t very well liked in this thread. I’m telling you, dudes a monster. Hes slow, so it makes him a bit more niche, but he’s worth all the materials. Have fun everyone!