Is one talent ever worthwhile?

[Gryphonknight]

War

@Pagan1

Thank you. +1 is exactly what I meant and I am wanting to strengthen war attacks in particular.

I have seen war attack succeed, or fail, by 1 HP.

Since an effectively infinite number of players can attack your war defense team, one of those attacks is likely to succeed, or fail, because of any X*+1 hero.

Welcome to RNG RPG.

Return on Investment - Defense / Defense

However if you are a number cruncher, X*+2 is the better deal with X*+3 being the best deal that does not involve a Talent 2/5 .

For defense triggered talents on defense teams, Centers are best investments, with corners being worst position ( but depending on hero, not worst for attack teams. It gets complex quickly ).

They are not best because of talent use/ synergy, but because they get hit by normal/ matching/ tile damage the most.

Return on Investment - Defense / Attack

For attack triggered talents on defense teams, Corners are best investments, with Centers being worst position ( but depending on hero, not worst for attack teams. It gets complex quickly ).

They are not best because of talent use/ synergy, but because they get the most number of normal/ slash attacks before dying.

Return on Investment - Attack

Healers, and generic/ rainbow defense debuff, are the best use on attack teams.

Unless generic/ rainbow defense debuff is neutralized ( looking at you centers with cleanse ), then attack buff/ mega attack buffs are best on attack teams.

X*+1

But.

You use your favorite heroes the most.

This is a game.

I strongly recommend making your favorite heroes X*+1 ( see notes ).

Notes

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They still have a few kinks ( see rant at end ) but emblems were the best change to Empires the Devs ever did that does not focus on the forums.

Emblems

@Gryphonknight

Bonus Stage

Edit:
This is a really good, really fun idea.

My current plan is to unlock the first talent on all my favorite heroes

I have unlocked the first node on my Wu Kong Cascade Squad and it is fun when a talent procs even though the chance is low.

So after I have a decent roster of 4*+19/ 5* 4.80, my next step will be to just unlock the first node of the talent grid for all my favorite heroes.

Just to add more fun to the game.

Rogue 4*+1 Glass cannons

Monk Wu Kong 4*+1 will not be great on war/ raid defense and my Rogue Guardian Jackal is really close to 4* 4.80.

So I will go Rogue Scarlett 4*+1, Rogue Jackal 4*+1, then take Rogue Scarlett to 4*+19, both heroes are so fragile, even Evade 4% will increase their survival.

Once Wu Kong is 4*+15, I will swap Jackal 4*+1 for Wu Kong 4*+15.

Peters is also a Rogue. Might go 4*+1 Scarlett, Jackal, Peters then take Rogue Scarlett to 4*+19

Edit:

The genius of talents is the proc rate changes but the result stays the same.

Evade proccing has the same effect no matter the nodes activated.

I laughed out loud when my - then 4*+1 Rogue Scarlett - evaded Sartana’s Deathstrike which I then cleansed with my fully charged Rigard.

Probability

A Scarlett with zero emblems can not Evade.

But a Scarlett Rogue 4*+1 has a chance. Given how much time I play Empires, Scarlett will proc.

Would she proc more with more nodes, sure. Are some of the talents more powerful than others, yes. Do some talents buff some heroes more than others - see above plan.

But a non zero chance buffs many characters since Empires is a grindy game, not a crossword puzzle. Though a Crossword puzzle MMO would be another case altogether.

Emblem kinks

@Gryphonknight

SGG did try it once . And while I strongly disagree with the decisions they made (I even offered a fix) , it was the one time SGG exceeded my expectation for Empires. I still have a momento of that time . I still think there are ways it could be added to the game ( see squires in notes ).

Like TSR adding level 0 cantrips to a level 1-9 spell casting system, new code should make most players say “Thanks SGG, that really made Empires better.”

FIN