I think Xiwangmu is reasonably well-balanced overall
I think Xiwangmu is excessively weak, and needs a buff (increase of their strength)
I think Xiwangmu is excessively strong, and needs a nerf (decrease of their strength)
I’m not sure yet
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If you think Xiwangmu is well-balanced, too strong, or too weak — why?
Are there specific, concrete suggestions you’d make to the game designers to alter Xiwangmu ? Or are there specific reasons you think they should remain unchanged?
Purpose of this thread:
To provide an aggregate place for the topic here on the forum; thus preventing there being a million threads popping up. And to provide an actual set of impartial votes rather than a Ideas & Feature Requests which has no real voting.
In short, to neaten the forum and to give players and outlet for their thoughts on his balance without bogging down the rest of the forum or the other Xiwangmu thread.
Don’t let her card fool you, people, the people who have her know she needs some sort of change to her special, the whole card doesn’t make sense, don’t negate those who have her just because you see a big number on the damage section, because in the real world, it hardly happens and the card is a mess.
There are heroes who do the +crit better, she was clearly not designed to be just a titan hero, however, that is what she’s been delegated to now as she’s hard to use anywhere else, her usability literally relies on her dying, that’s really stupid first of all, however, the older Green Knight is more useful in that aspect, this card needs to die to deal her damage, yet her passives and 2LB skill discourage her dying as they try to keep her alive.
Those who have her please comment what you think should be changed/remove/added to make her more useable.
The issues of current:
Her card discourages her death, thus making her soul reason sort of pointless, she’s just an ornament sitting there - the big issue with it too is it can be dispelled, which makes her even more useless, especially at average.
As above, the stack of +damage is not that useful when she’s of average mana speed.
Crit chance is only 3 turns.
She needs something added, like immediate damage, @Inkblot recommended a 200% to all, and I’d agree.
I think the best is to let her attack with 200% at the end of the special. This will let her do some damage with the stacks and if she’s attacking those counter-attackers, it will lead to some amazing damage chain. Fire special > revive buff added > stacks added > deal damage > get counterattack damage > dies > revive > hit enemies with more damage.
She can definitely needs do something else damage or heal would be great, I tried to use her on offense and defense . got her the first time she was featured max her that day only place she stands out is against titan @Inkblot recommended a good little addition to her that would be great as is she is not good anywhere but titan
About her weakness, I agree with the above posts, she is better when she is not fully leveled up and limit broken just because she can die easily and perform her best ability (in case she have a chance to cast special skill).
Some suggestions for her:
1st: add attack at the end of special skill (Green knight casts defense down first, deal damage later)
or 2nd: apply revive skill to all
or 3nd: add healing ability
or 4th: increase her mana to “fast” to have a better use of her current 2nd and 3rd skill (+ crit and attack stacks)
Applying revive to all is too much and it’s no longer unique to her. Healing also doesn’t work for her. She needs to die to make use of the damage after reviving. 1st and 4th are good suggestions although making her fast may be too OP.
I just used her in wo3k at 3-9 and she made a huge difference and I love her. I would obviously welcome more power but she’s excellent, I loved her in beta and I apologize for nothing and to no one
•heal all alias except the caster with 35%.
•If the caster dies during the next 5 turns, they are resurrected in the beginning of their next turn with 35% health and 815 damage is dealt to all enemies. All status effects and stacks are removed when the caster dies. If the effect it’s removed before the duration ends , all alias get 400 overhead
•All allies gets +50% critical chance for 3 turns.
Stack (Max: 10): All allies get +15% attack.
For me this must be her special.
This is a bit on the very rude side. Don’t try to force change people’s opinion, instead try to learn their perspective.
I personally think she is a great hero and I am very excited about puling her. I hardly care about her death ability it is her crit up and even more so her attack up stack. Outside of titans where the benefit is obvious for a battle of attrition team that stack (especially if combined with say a Goldie) will make for killer tiles and specials as you progress
This is a brilliant idea to bring her back to the level of West journey family. Most heroes in this family are great, except her. If she won’t be better, she will go to the soul exchange portal
Not at all, I was asking him to reconsider, he obviously doesn’t want to so that’s fine, however, no doubt that this hero card is messy regardless, it’s quite clearly evident.
And for you to not care about what is supposed to be the main part of her special is the problem, and for that, your view should not even count as it hinders those who want to use her for her intended purpose and not just as a glorified titan hero of which she was not designed nor intended for, that’s the issue.
Honestly, @Inkblot hit it on the head, she needs to do around 200% damage to all enemies at the end of the skill, along with a 2LB change from defense up to perhaps attack up, passives may be harder to change as they are the same for all the new W3K heroes so I understand that.
It can not hurt if a topic is added for Hero Balance section too, as I do not really know what they are looking at when they are selecting a hero to buff / nerf.
She could use a little something. She can be dispelled and blocked which is fine but maybe add a penalty for dispelling or a little upfront damage. She’s not bad. I won’t ascend her as she is.
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