⚖ Hero Balance Discussion: Costumed Guardian Panther

This thread is for discussing whether Costumed Guardian Panther is well-balanced, or whether you think he needs a buff or nerf.

This thread is NOT for general discussion of Strategy or Summons related to Costumed Guardian Panther. For that, please see: ℹ Costumed Guardian Panther – 5* Dark / Purple from Guardians of Teltoc


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:bar_chart: Poll

  • I think Costumed Guardian Panther is reasonably well-balanced overall
  • I think Costumed Guardian Panther is excessively weak, and needs a buff (increase of their strength)
  • I think Costumed Guardian Panther is excessively strong, and needs a nerf (decrease of their strength)
  • I’m not sure yet

0 voters


:speaking_head: Discussion

  • If you think Costumed Guardian Panther is well-balanced, too strong, or too weak — why?

  • Are there specific, concrete suggestions you’d make to the game designers to alter Costumed Guardian Panther ? Or are there specific reasons you think they should remain unchanged?


Purpose of this thread:

To provide an aggregate place for the topic here on the forum; thus preventing there being a million threads popping up. And to provide an actual set of impartial votes rather than a #ideas-feature-requests which has no real voting.

In short, to neaten the forum and to give players and outlet for their thoughts on his balance without bogging down the rest of the forum or the other Costumed Guardian Panther thread.

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So soon. Lol

I will wait for the varied player response.

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E&P world record for the fastest balance thread

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she is a support hero, her damage should be reduced to 100% instead of 280% to tone her down and make her more balance.

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Yes, when balance threads proportion to released heroes is turning 1:1 it speaks a lot about the lack of care about releasing broken heroes.

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More nerf threads? Come on people just play the game.

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Someone already asked it before the costume is released…

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No post release nerfs please.

panther is very strong but not OP

meh class, can’t kill with one special (needs follow up from other purples)

she doesn’t deserve nerfs. buff other heroes instead

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Lots of players in Beta said she was too strong and needed to be toned down.
I really hope that we don’t jump to another knee jerk nerf quickly

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Here is what I said in Beta…

Hmmm…

G.Panther Costume:
Mana Speed: Fast
Special Skill: Roar of the Panther

  • Deals 280% damage to all enemies
  • All enemies get -64% defense against Dark for 3 turns.
  • All enemies are immune to new buffs for 3 turns.

M.Lepus Costume:
Mana Speed: Fast
Special Skill: Rift Blade

  • Deals 280% damage to all enemies.
  • The caster gets -24% mana generation for 4 turns. This effect cannot be cleansed.

Lewena:
Mana Speed: Fast
Special Skill: Impeding Bolts

  • Blocks Talent Skill activation for all enemies for 6 turns.
  • Deals 260% damage to all enemies.


I really don’t get costumes that make the vanilla version pointless, like most everyone here I like a costume which you can swap in our out depending on need. Master Lepus costume was one thing but I can at least envision using the vanilla version in some scenarios, but Guardian Panther costume definitely makes the vanilla version completely pointless.

Why not model her after Tiburtus-Costume Tiburtus? Damage to all should be reduced and not increased from the 210%.

Mana Speed: Fast
Special Skill: Roar of the Panther

  • Deals 160% damage to all enemies
  • All enemies get -64% defense against Dark for 3 turns.
  • All enemies are immune to new buffs for 3 turns.

or

Mana Speed: Fast
Special Skill: Roar of the Panther

  • Deals 210% damage to all enemies
  • All allies get +30% attack for 3 turns.
  • Cleanses status ailments from all allies

The 2nd option easily creates a reason to use vanilla version over costume in certain situations, and vise versa.

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She doesn’t seem any stronger than a whole group of other recently released heroes. Yes her special is great, but the core stats are much lower than recent heroes, so it’s balanced.

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While it is true that she needs other heroes to reach her potential, what hero doesn’t? Ok maybe Goseck :laughing:

C.Panther is absolutely strong enough to warrant putting her on defense and ditching a complete Rainbow defense. If I had her and someone like Nyx, I would run something like Hero - Hero - C.Panther - Kara/Wolfgang - Nyx (2 front, 3 rear formation).

Is she OP? Yes obviously, what are some of you smoking? Name a Fast hit-all hero that does as much as her, without conditional requirements… She is perfect for Offense, great for Defense (perfect with the right setup), perfect for the Titan, etc etc.

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She is a monster on defence and even better in offence…

Its hard to understand until you have played with her.

Wait for it…

Don’t worry, she will be nerfed after the Challenge Festival. First make a hero OP before the event. People will rushed to the portal to get her. Then they nerfed her after making enough revenues.
Rinse and repeat !

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It’s Guardian Panther OP? Hmm let’s see



Hit like truck fast EDD and imune against buffs to all vs slow and in 90% hit only 2, no she it’s not OP.

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:rofl:

Agreed, definitely not OP!

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Of course not OP :rofl: she needs a buff ! May be 360% damage to all at fast speed and 100% EDD :exploding_head: Now someone will come and say beta didn’t tested her properly and it’s a mistake of beta :rofl:

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I just got her so no she does not need a nerf everyone stop plz she’s fine :grimacing:

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Costume Guardian Panther is not OP. Khufu which is too pathetic. if I as the owner of SG. I will fire the employee who made the khufu skill. khufu is too despicable!

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lol…don’t worry @Shipyardjones we are all just venting…chance she gets nerfed is next to zero unless she over saturates the Top 100/1000 defenses.

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