I wholeheartedly agree with you and MysterySpin on this point, I guess I just didnāt expect SG to think the same way. Iām confused though, it sounds like MysterySpin is saying the S3 heroes will come in batches, but you sound like itās not decided yet?
Is the upcoming batch-releases maybe like how S2 launched most of the heroes at once but then newer heroes trickled in later on (if Iām understanding the S2 launch correctly)?
MysterySpin wrote that a little while agoā¦
From beta testing there are at least 2 heroes who HAVE been tested who are not in the current testing portal (Fura 4* & Alfrike 5*).
Also if you look at the realms there are quite a number of āholesā in both the hero dispersion between realms AND between star ratingsā¦
Niflheim Realm - 3 (1x 5*, 2x 3*)
Midgard Realm - 4 (1x 5*, 2x 4*, 1x 3*)
Alfheim Realm - 2 (1x 5*, 1x 3*)
Vanaheim Realm - 2 (1x 5*, 1x 4*)
Jotunheim Realm - 1 (1x 3*)
Helheim Realm - 1 (1x 5*, 1x 4*)
Asgard Realm - 1 (1x 5*)
Muspelheim Realm - 1 (1x 4*)
Svartalfheim Realm - 0
5* Heroes - 6x (1 blue, 1 yellow, 2 green, 1 purple, 1 red)
4* Heroes - 5x (1 green, 1 purple, 1 yellow, 1 blue, 1 red)
3* Heroes - 5x (1 red, 1 green, 1 blue, 1 yellow & 1 Purple)
(Fura = 4* purple & Alfrike = 5* purple)
So from all that, it very much looks like there will be more heroes to be releasedā¦
Especially when the āfamily boostā is for 2 & 3 heroes from the same realmā¦ some of the realms you canāt even get 1 hero let alone most where you canāt get 2 heroesā¦
OVERALL!!!
My advice is to hold off using the Valhalla portal until all heroes have been releasedā¦ This would be at least 3x heroes in EACH family but more likely 4 heroes in each family (based on the Midguard Realm)ā¦
I personally WILL NOT be spending any gems or any Valhalla coins until thenā¦
Gotcha, thanks Iāve seen pieces of that info spread around but wanted to make sure I was putting it together correctly.
I made this error in s2 with earned coins using them as I got 100. Then you get the lump sum after each difficulty for another 3 pulls in normal and 5 in hard but if course I didnāt pool them either. And now getting 100 coins with only the seahorse even with the chests, wars etc is not easy. Maybe 1 pull a month? And the odds pleaseā¦
The s3 odds are just atrocious esp as someone wrote that s1 is in s3 yet s1 has the chamber for only s1 heroes and now you dump more in Valhalla. Have mercy and put s2 in at the odds of s1. I have 1 s2 5* in 2 years.
Itās getting like a broken record here. We ask for a minor improvement and sg gives us a ā ā ā ā punch while yelling us it feels good too. Come on. At least let us have ha to turn in heroes for better ones. Iām not leaving but I can see the exit sign for the first time since starting.
Thank you for that analysis, and reminding me that the 3*/4* Valhalla heroes will come out in batches.
Atlantis wasnāt that bad since the 3* and 4* werenāt batched and the improvement of odds for a featured 5* were significant if overly expensive to pull for.
Iāve already decided to hold off (mostly, unless Vivica is featured, I might cave) on the costume portalāI already have all the 3* heroes in it and half the 4* ones. I imagine that SG will eventually costume all the classic heroes so I plan to hoard my keys until more are released.
Sounds like I will hold off on Valhalla for a few months. At least it will save me some money at least.
The advice to wait is smart. But itās rather difficult because this will be a waiting period of 6 months or more. Iāll surely will do single pulls with coins to get and enjoy them faster. But you convinced me to hold off any 10 pull until then 
We thinking this drops in February?
Thanks Guvnor for keeping me from wasting alot of money on this. SG (now owned by Zanga) is definately killing not thinking of player enjoyment. If they keep the frustration level high in this game will be a lot more rage quiting. Will definately follow your advice!!
Well that plan just went out the window 
good luck on your Costume pulls
Why are people acting surprised by any of this?
Itās the same game weāve been playing for 2 years
Bit naive to suddenly expect the next edition to be turned on itās head and completely different from the first
Just another summoning portal and another map to play
Iāll beat the map, summon for heroes, cross fingers, and have fun
Same game with continued success
Anyone expecting summon rates to drastically increase, might as well pack up now and hit the app store to hunt for another game
āDrip heroes inā, expected as well. They dripped s2 5s in but i recall players wishing there were more 4s they could get instead of the same ol same ol while chasing the new 5s. Seems like a good thing in my opinion.
āPatience or facing pullerās remorseā is absolutely nothing new. Key part of the game and has been since the very first hotm was introduced. So again, why are people acting surprised or upset?
Idk. Iām just slower than you guys i guess because i donāt get all the complaining, i canāt find a single part of s3 that isnāt what i expected other than the stone tiles(which i think is awesome and have personally requested in the past)
Anyways have fun with the complaining about the same old stuff as if itās all something new, i have better things to do
They arenāt. That 1.3% of non-featureds are a pool of 10, or how every many other non-featured heroes they open up with. You can take that 1.3% and divide it by however many non-featured heroes in that pool.
For example, if there are 10:
Featured Hero (Fenrir): 0.3% chance of summoning
Non-featured Hero 1: 0.13% chance of summoning
Non-featured Hero 2: 0.13% chance of summoning
Non-featured Hero 3: 0.13% chance of summoning
ā¦
Non-featured Hero 9: 0.13% chance of summoning
Non-featured Hero 10: 0.13% chance of summoning
Soā¦ you knowā¦ 1 in around 800 if you are aiming at a non featured hero in the above example of a starting pool of ten. But, you knowā¦ a massively improved 1 in around 333 for featured-Fenrir in the above example.
Compare that to Costume chamber which is a 0.65% chance of pulling a specific featured hero which adds up to about 1 in 155 chance, you can see why Iām liking the costume chamber a lot more these days.
Having said that, SG please donāt nerf costume chamber odds!! One of my favorite things added to the game this yearā¦
My hunch with all of the schedule changes this month is weāll see Valhalla before the end of the month. Is this a crazy assumption? Has it been confirmed elsewhere?
A magical scenario would be to have Valhalla opening on Feb 26th and extending into March so that I could do a new ten pull for Telluria, who ATM I want more than any of these Valhalla heroes.
Never been confirmed but thats the rational progression given the rapidity of Beta Testing in the last couple weeksā¦
Will be this month or next that Valhalla Drops.
Itāll be a DEVs Valhalla.
Or should I say Valdollar? 
Oddly, Iāve been thinking lately of holding off any summoning from this new Valhalla portal. I could build up some mats in the mean time. I kinda like the HOTM coming out the next bunch of months and the way they nerf all these heroes itāll probably save me
Some real heart ache of being disappointed like;Margaret, Neith,Gimble, JF ā¦ basically 5/6 of the last cycle ( I like Vila). Saying that, and realizing they will probably nerf them as wellā¦ yeah screw the summonings - Iām now officially C2p and hoping for tokens
Hehe I agree RE holding off on summoning:
Rational & Explanation for WHY I am saying this:
Congrats on your decision 
best of luck! Good news is that (like S2) there are 8 āValhallaā coins available for completing each stage; 3x for Normal mode & 5x for hard mode.
Over the 8 revealed stages there are 32 Provinces:
32 Provinces x 10 Stages (per province) x 8 coins per stage = 2,560 coins available = 25 summons for free.
There are also the provinces āmissingā in realm 9 (āAsgard Realmā) which will probably yield another 3-4 provinces (240 - 320 more coins).
Then there will PROBABLY be a mission to do with completing Normal & Hard modes (like in S2) which SHOULD yield more coins again
So overall you will be able to get a MINIMUM of 2800 coins (or 28 summons), plus whatever drops in chests, titans, MV & missions etcā¦
Iāve got enough heroes and I just find that Atlantis roles around and I have 2 out of the four featured and itās not worth pulling ( of course if you do all you get is a S1). So, if a guy waits til all the S3 heroes are out and you make pulls ( with saved up Mattās) my chances are way better to get a hero not a duplicate. I have no problem working on troops in the mean time as well.
I agree with most of what was in this response but not sure how this next bit links in at all to your rational:
They, to date, havenāt ānerfedā any heroesā¦ not technicallyā¦ there have been āpre-release changesā but no in game nerfās
Iām also confused as you were previously talking about not wanting duplicates & as a result saving your summons till the summon pool is at itās fullestā¦ but then swap over to ānerfingāā¦?
