🧪 Early Information on New "League of Villains" Challenge Event [Part of The Beta Beat V35]

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This thread is to provide early insights and discussion on the new “League of Villains” Challenge Event


Don’t get too attached

Details from Beta, especially brand-new Beta content, don’t tend to be very reliable for actual release.

It’s incredibly common that features are changed during Beta testing, or sometimes even after testing but before release. That is, after all, the purpose of Beta testing.

So I wouldn’t get too attached to any of this — it’s not unheard of for entire portions of features to be removed or reworked, or for radical changes to functionality to be made.


New League of Villains Heroes

A new challenge event = new heroes…

For more information on see here: 🧪 Early Information on New League of Villains Heroes [Part of The Beta Beat v35]


:man_supervillain: Special Gameplay / Villains Heroes in Challenge Events :woman_supervillain:

A unique feature of the League of Villains compared to all other Challenge Events is that heroes of the Villains Family have a unique interraction with Challenge Events.

Specifically:

  • Gain an increase of 2% to your stage score for each Villains Hero in your Team
  • Heroes of the Villains family bypass the Elemental Barriers, and have increased attack, defense, and health (+20%) in this Challenge Event’s stages

Update: staff have stated that, due to the overwhelming feedback, they are removing the bonus score element. However they specially used the words “for now” meaning it could come back at a later date.

Some Notes:

  • It is not at all clear if this bonus applies to ALL challenge events or just for the League of Villains…

    • Update: staff indicated that it would be unique to the heroes of that event.
  • If it Does apply to all challenge events, its even less clear if the bonus applies to using the Villains heroes or if the bonus is specific to using that specific event’s heroes (i.e. using Pirates Heroes in Pirates of Corellia as opposed to using Villains heroes in Pirates of Corellia).

    • Update: As above update.
  • It is NOT limited to Unique heroes only… Any and all Villains heroes trigger the +2% bonus… So you can do 5x Skrekok (ratman) in Rare & get +10% bonus score… Which is INSANE given that he is a Hit-3 version of Namahage…

Personal Note from Guv:

I personally am not a fan AT ALL of of this addition to the challenge events as it will drive the competition & higher tier rewards further out of grasp of the “every-day” player and further into the P2W sphere.

We already know that high level competition requires three things: (1) board farming for a great opening board; (2) appearance of Suspicious Chests in most stages; and (3) carpet/ item bombing if 1&2 align.

In terms of the board-farming alone, figures I have seen thrown around is that people need 20+ WE refills to make T100 in ONE difficulty… To get T10 or Top1 in the events, it’s that much or more…
And that’s not even factoring in the huge number of battle items required; which requires even MORE farming either normally or during atlantis in order to restock / supply on crafting materials (or just buying them from the shop with lots of gems…).

Now a C2P or F2P player COULD in theory stockpile and compete in a couple of the events each year… BUT with this new bonus being added; that may not be possible anymore.

Consider this, there is no restriction on them being “unique” heroes… So a high spending player could get & level any 5x of the villains hero and grab a +10% boost to their event scores for each stage… Which is a HUGE bonus & boost to push away from the players who do not have that boost…
Also note; there is currently no specified restriction on the 2% score boost applying ONLY to the League of Villains challenge event…so this could affect all 5 of the existing Challenge Events too… not just this one…

Add to that, the villains heroes BYPASS the elemental barriers, it means that there is now no restriction/ penalty to taking “reflected” colour heroes in… meaning that they can have a further advantage by taking 5x of a kind to wipe the bosses out…

All in all, having this bonus makes a MASSIVE gap between those that do and those that do not have the heroes…

Whether it will play out this way or not is unknown; but based on initial information… :man_shrugging:


:game_die: Summoning Odds

As with all other challenge events, the League of Villains comes with it’s own Summon Portal. See below for information regarding the appearance rates.

APPEARANCE RATES
Rare Classic Hero: 58.1%
Epic Classic Hero: 15.8%
Legendary Classic Hero: 1.5%

Rare Trainer Hero: 5.0%
Epic Trainer Hero: 5.0%

Rare Event Hero: 7.9%
Epic Event Hero: 5.7%
Legendary Event Hero 1.0%

BONUS DRAW
Legendary Hero of the Month: 1.3%


Yes, you saw that right. Trainer Heroes have been added to the summons portal. There is NO CHANGE to the event hero odds from any of the otehr Challenge Event Heroes.

The 10% odds needed for the Trainer Heroes has come from Rare Classic & Epic Classic Heroes


Click for odds of other Challenge Events

From Pirates of Corellia (which this new event seems to have copied a lot of parts from).


:moneybag: Challenge Coins

The “League of Villains” makes use of the existing Challenge Event Coins currancy for summoning. It also features the Suspicious Chest’s as a rare & random monster which drops 1x Challenge Coin as bonus loot.

{insert image of the Challenge Event Coin}
Note; the new “league of villains” does not yet appear on the Challenge Event Coin so there is no early indication of where the League of Villains will fit into the existing Challenge Event Rotation.

The premise of Suspicious Chests appears to be similar to the concept of Orichalcum Seadragons appearing at random during Atlantis Rises and dropping Atlantis Coins, which can then be used for Summons. One difference is that in initial testing, it appears that Suspicious Chests only drop a single Challenge Coin — but you only need 10 of them for a Summon, not 100.


:zap: Event Info – Stages, Bosses, and WE Costs

Duration Reflect Colour Stages
5 days Purple 10 per difficulty

Note: Info is beta so may change…


The League of Villains follows the the usual set-up for Challenge Events with 3 difficulty tiers (Rare, Epic & Legendary); It is however using the old format of only 10 Stages for each tier.

I haven’t yet had a chance to run through every Stage to note the Bosses for each, but will aim to do so before Beta ends.

Stage # World Energy
( R/E/L)
Waves Monsters Boss
1 2 / 3 / 4 3 Purple Skrekok (R) & 2 Purple Mobs
2 2 / 3 / 4 3 Red & Blue Edd (P) & Sanngrior (B)
3 3 / 4 / 5 3 Purple & Blue Ingolf (P) & Isrod (R)
4 3 / 4 / 5 3 Purple & Blue Karnov (P) & Asterius (R)
5 4 / 5 / 6 3 Purple & Blue Dark Lord (P), Isrod (R), Toxicandra (G)
Dark Lord (P), Toxicandra (G), Isrod (R)
6 4 / 5 / 6 3 Red Edd §, Skrekok (R), Ingolf (P)
7 5 / 6 / 7 3 Red & Blue Asterius (R), Karnov (P), Dark Lord (P)
8 5 / 6 / 7 3 Purple & Red Toxicandra (G), Dark Lord (P), Crystalis (B)
9 6 / 7 / 8 3 Purple & Red Isrod (R), Crystalis (B), Karnov (P)
10 6 / 7 / 8 3 Purple & Blue Crystalis (B), Dark Lord (P), Asterius (R)

If I do not get the information posted here to the #beta-beat thread; rest assured there will be a stage guide & infographic published before this event goes to game for the first time (based on last seen beta content so there may be changes obviously…

Edit: Table Above updated to include the Bosses & mobs for various stages. Courtesy of @cap



:money_mouth_face: Rewards

NOTE: It is probabe that I made a typo or two in this; so if there is anything that looks Hinky, let me know :slight_smile:

It appears to be using the rewards system for Pirates of Corellia… Just subbing in the Villains Heroes and Avatars for the high tier finishers…


Click for Rare Tier Rewards (remember, this may very likely change)
Heroes Avatars Flasks Tokens Coins Ascension Mats Battle Items Crafting Ingredients
Rank 1 Ingolf Edd 1x TE, 1x RE, 1x WE 1x ETT, 1x EHT, 1x Grey 10x Coins Poisoned Darts, Royal Tabard, Farsight Telescope, Sturdy Shield, Hidden Blade, Warm Cape, Compass, Fine Gloves, 10x Arcane Scripts, 10x Adventurer’s Kit 10x Super Healing Potion, 10x Bear Banner, 10x Super Antidote, 10x Minor Healing Potion 10x Dragon Bone, 10x Fine Steel, 10x Sunspire Feather, 10x Clean Cloth
Ranks 2-10 1x TE, 1x RE, 1x WE 1x ETT, 1x EHT, 1x Grey 5x Coins Poisoned Darts, Royal Tabard, Sturdy Shield, Hidden Blade, Warm Cape, 10x Arcane Scripts, 10x Adventurer’s Kit 10x Super Healing Potion, 10x Bear Banner, 10x Super Antidote, 10x Minor Healing Potion 10x Dragon Bone, 10x Fine Steel, 10x Sunspire Feather, 10x Clean Cloth
Ranks 11-1000 1x TE, 1x RE, 1x WE 1x ETT, 1x EHT, 1x Grey 2x Coins Poisoned Darts, Sturdy Shield, 10x Arcane Scripts, 10x Adventurer’s Kit 10x Super Healing Potion, 10x Bear Banner, 10x Super Antidote, 10x Minor Healing Potion 10x Dragon Bone, 10x Fine Steel, 10x Sunspire Feather, 10x Clean Cloth
Ranks 1001-10000 1x TE, 1x RE, 1x WE 1x ETT, 1x EHT, 1x Grey 10x Arcane Scripts, 10x Adventurer’s Kit 10x Bear Banner, 10x Super Antidote, 10x Minor Healing Potion 10x Fine Steel, 10x Sunspire Feather, 10x Clean Cloth
Ranks 10001-100000 1x RE, 1x WE 1x EHT, 1x Grey 10x Arcane Scripts, 10x Adventurer’s Kit 10x Bear Banner, 10x Minor Healing Potion 10x Sunspire Feather, 10x Clean Cloth
Ranks 100001-500000 1x TE, 1x RE, 1x WE 1x ETT, 1x EHT, 1x Grey 2x Coins 10x Arcane Scripts, 10x Adventurer’s Kit 10x Bear Banner, 10x Super Antidote, 10x Minor Healing Potion 10x Fine Steel, 10x Sunspire Feather, 10x Clean Cloth
Ranks 10001-100000 1x WE 1x Grey 10x Adventurer’s Kit 10x Minor Healing Potion 10x Clean Cloth
Ranks 500001 or Lower - - - 1x Daily - - - -

Rare Tier Completion Reward

  • 1x WE Flask
  • 3x Challenge Coin
  • 25x Druid Emblem
  • 25x Barbarian Emblem
  • Hidden Blade
  • 1x Revive Scroll

Click for Epic Tier Rewards (remember, this may very likely change)
Heroes Avatars Flasks Tokens Coins Ascension Mats Battle Items Crafting Ingredients
Rank 1 Toxicandra Sanngrior, Ingolf 2x TE, 2x RE, 2x WE 2x EHT, 2x ETT, 1x Grey 20x Coins Mysterious Tonic, Mystic Rings, Farsight Telescope, Tome of Tactics, Damascus Blade, 2x Sturdy Shield, Compass, Trap Tools, 2x Warm Cape, Fine Gloves, 20x Wooden Shield, 20x Practice Sword 20x Tornadoe, 20x Bomb Attack, 20x Mana Potion, 20x Healing Potion 20x Orichalcum Nugget, 20x Grimoire Dust, 20x Crypt Mushroom, 20x Leather Strips
Ranks 2-10 Sanngrior 2x TE, 2x RE, 2x WE 2x EHT, 2x ETT, 1x Grey 10x Coins Mysterious Tonic, Mystic Rings, Farsight Telescope, 2x Sturdy Shield, Compass, Trap Tools, Warm Cape, 20x Wooden Shield, 20x Practice Sword 20x Tornadoe, 20x Bomb Attack, 20x Mana Potion, 20x Healing Potion 20x Orichalcum Nugget, 20x Grimoire Dust, 20x Crypt Mushroom, 20x Leather Strips
Ranks 11-500 2x TE, 2x RE, 2x WE 2x EHT, 2x ETT, 1x Grey 3x Coins Mysterious Tonic, 2x Sturdy Shield, Compass, 20x Wooden Shield, 20x Practice Sword 20x Tornadoe, 20x Bomb Attack, 20x Mana Potion, 20x Healing Potion 20x Orichalcum Nugget, 20x Grimoire Dust, 20x Crypt Mushroom, 20x Leather Strips
Ranks 501-5000 2x TE, 2x RE, 2x WE 2x EHT, 2x ETT, 1x Grey Sturdy Shield, 20x Wooden Shield, 20x Practice Sword 20x Bomb Attack, 20x Mana Potion, 20x Healing Potion 20x Grimoire Dust, 20x Crypt Mushroom, 20x Leather Strips
Ranks 5001-50000 2x RE, 2x WE 2x ETT, 1x Grey 20x Wooden Shield, 20x Practice Sword 20x Mana Potion, 20x Healing Potion 20x Crypt Mushroom, 20x Leather Strips
Ranks 50001-250000 2x WE 1x Grey 20x Practice Sword 20x Healing Potion 20x Leather Strips
Ranks 250001 or Lower - - - 1x Daily - - -

Epic Tier Completion Rewards

  • 2x WE Flask
  • 5x Challenge Coin
  • 50x Rogue Emblem
  • 50x Wizard Emblem
  • 1x Sturdy Shield
  • 1x Fine Gloves
  • 1x Revive Scroll

Click for Legendary Tier Rewards (remember, this may very likely change)
Heroes Avatars Flasks Tokens Coins Ascension Mats Battle Items Crafting Ingredients
Rank 1 Dark Lord Asterius, Crystalis, Toxicandra 3x TE, 3x RE, 3x WE 3x ETT, 3x EHT, 1x Grey 30x Coins Farsight Telescope, Poisoned Darts, 2x Damascus Blade, 2x Royal Tabard, Tome of Tactics, 3x Trap Tools, 2x Fine Gloves, Hidden Blade, Compass, 30x Strong Rope, 30x Rugged Clothes 30x Time Stop, 30x Dragon banner, 30x Potent Healing Potion, 30x Arrow Attack 30x Meteor Fragment, 30x Hardwood Lumber, 30x Crystal Shard, 30x Oil
Ranks 2-10 Asterius, Crystalis 3x TE, 3x RE, 3x WE 3x ETT, 3x EHT, 1x Grey 15x Coins Farsight Telescope, Poisoned Darts, Damascus Blade, Royal Tabard, 3x Trap Tools, 2x Fine Gloves, Hidden Blade, Compass, 30x Strong Rope, 30x Rugged Clothes 30x Time Stop, 30x Dragon banner, 30x Potent Healing Potion, 30x Arrow Attack 30x Meteor Fragment, 30x Hardwood Lumber, 30x Crystal Shard, 30x Oil
Ranks 11-100 Asterius 3x TE, 3x RE, 3x WE 3x ETT, 3x EHT, 1x Grey 5x Coins Farsight Telescope, Poisoned Darts, 3x Trap Tools, 2x Fine Gloves, Hidden Blade, Compass, 30x Strong Rope, 30x Rugged Clothes 30x Time Stop, 30x Dragon banner, 30x Potent Healing Potion, 30x Arrow Attack 30x Meteor Fragment, 30x Hardwood Lumber, 30x Crystal Shard, 30x Oil
Ranks 101-1000 3x TE, 3x RE, 3x WE 3x ETT, 3x EHT, 1x Grey 2x Trap Tools, Fine Gloves, Hidden Blade, 30x Strong Rope, 30x Rugged Clothes 30x Dragon banner, 30x Potent Healing Potion, 30x Arrow Attack 30x Hardwood Lumber, 30x Crystal Shard, 30x Oil
Ranks 1001-10000 3x RE, 3x WE 3x EHT, 1x Grey Trap Tools, 30x Strong Rope, 30x Rugged Clothes 30x Potent Healing Potion, 30x Arrow Attack 30x Crystal Shard, 30x Oil
Ranks 10001-100000 3x WE 1x Grey 30x Rugged Clothes 30x Arrow Attack 30x Oil
Ranks 1000001 or Lower - - - 1x Daily - - -

Legendary Tier Completion Rewards

  • 3x WE Flask
  • 7x Challenge Coin
  • 150x Monk Emblem
  • 150x Paladin Emblem
  • 1x Trap Tools
  • 1x Fine Gloves
  • 1x Compass
  • 1x Revive Scroll


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I see what you did there :face_with_monocle:

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Lol whoops. That one was unitentional but serves the purpose haha

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OK Op now all updated; only information missing is the monster & boss overview of the quest.

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Wow… thats disgusting really. Heroes that flat out boost your score? I’m one of those players to stockpile items to give it a go once every while when I feel I have enough supplies. This is just a slap to the face.

Well… lets see if stuff changes. I sure hope so.

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Trainer heroes in summons rather than season 1 heroes is a win!

I’m trying to think what provides a bigger advantage: bypassing reflect color or bonus score. I think I’ll go with extra score since I can beat every challenge event. I like the thought of it but Guv’s write up of the downsides says it all.

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Wow. I didn’t think they could get me to dislike challenge events more. Well done, SGG!

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Other posts have addressed the positive (e.g. trainer heroes) and negative (e.g. score bonus for using hard to come by event heroes).

My two cents: if we are getting a 6th event, why are we getting a color (dark) reflected? It would be nice to have an event without a reflected color.

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Is there any significant impact in terms of probabilities by the time of pull an event hero with the addition of the trainers? I mean, they took some odd percent from the classic pool to add the trainers but in theory now the pool to summoning is bigger now? So less chances to pull an specific hero? Or its the same

Thank you for the personal note @Guvnor, the new stage score bonus jumped out at me right away and is an obvious pay wall. Not a fan of that concept, I’m hoping they eliminate it and realize that good content should be what drives sales.

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I was hoping they reflect different colors for each stage…

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Vanilla heroes? Yes.

Event heroes? No.

The odds for a specific hero in the event side is reduced for legendary and rare as there are more of those rarity heroes compared to a regular challenge event.

@Guvnor has it been confirmed that this is a sixth challenge, or could it be replacing Pirates?

I’ve asked that amongst other clarifying questions. No reply yet.

Edit. Got some answers see reply below:

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Will the challenge events be updated again? In addition to what has already been mentioned, there are more heroes than in the others …

Answers to some Clarifying Questions I Asked.

staff response in green like this.

We’ll test these features in this Event first, and if they work we may extend some kind of ‘event-specific Hero’ benefits to other Events as well. The intent is to reward players who’ve collected Event Heroes as well as give value to owning some of the less effective Event Heroes.



This is to be decided. The intent is to have one or more new Challenge Events for 2021 and they most likely replace the similar element colored Events occasionally. The old Events are not intended to be removed from the game, but they appear less often. The long term plan would be to have 2 challenge Events for each element (for a total of 10), but please note that we’re now focusing only on the very first of these new Challenge Events.



If these new features we’re planning to add to Villains work well enough they may be added to other Challenge Events as well



The rewards are planned to be the same as in Pirates. Any new Challenge Event is currently planned to replace and alternate with the similarly colored Challenge Event in yet-unspecified cadence and thus the emblem output will stay as it was.



We really want to ensure that players who collect several Event-specific Heroes get tangible benefits from using their Heroes somewhere. The bonus scoring is something that has a real impact but is also contained to be only within the Event without affecting other game modes. we think this is a good balance, but we’ll of course keep monitoring the situation.

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I see whales lots of whales lol … :whale: :whale: :whale:

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@JGE You used the universal word for the “players who collect several Event-specific Heroes”

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It is not good, because it is not only P2W aspect, but also unfair and cheaty aspect of events. Let’s then do Cobalt and rangers and ninjas bypass elemetal reflect of CE.

I think this feature is good and theming, but not for Challenge events, but for non-competitive ones (seasonal, Atlantis, Valhalla, S4, costumes, ToL) and maybe to Ninjas (but more for oni-resistance, not atk up).

Specially for challenge events it is simply unfair.

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well said Guv, that +2% score per VIllain hero used thing just smacks gigantic paywall…

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