[WARNING] A Summons Experience - Chasing Guardian Panther - A Warning for Chasing Heroes

I don’t know what y’all are complaining about. I got Panther after one 10 pull and another after a few single pulls just trying to show a guy how long the odds are:

Super easy.

Now THAT’S bragging.

In all seriousness, I tried getting Falcon and/or Jackal this recent Teltoc and a partial effort to get Gazelle while I was still in the haze of desire without thinking too hard if she’d benefit my bench or not. I have no idea how much I pulled, but I want to say it was around 20 singles with coins and gems. The best I got this time around was a bat.

Oh and I got an Owl too. In a past pull attempt. Lucky me. :nerd_face:

I didn’t get what I wanted and was understandably bummed. But I spent what I was comfortable with. :man_shrugging:t2:

I consider myself a very lucky E&P player. I have a lot of really good and rare heroes without having to sink as much money as others have, but even I have spent over $400 USD to get to that point (spread over 1.5 years). Of all the heroes I have, the ones I actually got after chasing are Panther, Kingston, Frida, Vivica, and Lianna, and those last two were out of TC20, so they don’t really count. Evelyn? Nope. Gazelle? Nope. Jackal? Nope. Delilah? Nope.

But heck, even that last paragraph is a bit of a brag.

Take it for what it’s worth.

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To contribute here also, I tracked total 400 pulls in various events and I got only 2 event 5* heroes, luckily (I guess) for me it was Panther and Jabberwock. So it really isn’t worth to chase specific hero imho.


THIS!!! ^^^^^^^^^^
I say show me your history in the settings tab for the event period. :slight_smile:

Who me?

I typed it all out into the OP lol

No sorry, I was responding to @Elpis 's comment

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Ahh right, so requesting that in general people don’t spread false hope/ rediculous brags & instead show the reality of their pulls?

got this from a single pull… very first pull. Made me laugh. I planned on just doing one pull and no more so that worked out for me. Just want to remind everyone that sometimes it takes two or three pulls to get the same results


I appreciate these threads because it very much reinforces my (bit more modest) budget and just how lucky we can be.

I told myself I would quit E&P after this event if I didn’t get Guardian Chameleon. I didn’t chase for it hard (spent a grand total of $30), and ended up pulling it with a token. I was really looking for an excuse to quit, and the goddamn game didn’t give it to me :rofl: :rofl:


In 240 summons you only got a single event 5*? I’ll admit I skimmed a bit but did see you saying something about only getting other s1 5*. If so, how fortunate you got the one you wanted!

Edit: @Guvnor

Yup just the one 5* Event Hero this time round… The others I got were in this little table here. All were unfortunately Duplicates of ones I had… Still no vivica :’(


This is a fun game, don’t get me wrong. But there’s one thing I hate and this post paints that picture perfectly. It’s not pay to win, but it’s PAY BIG to get the heroes you want. Oh, and it’s pay a little more to ascend them.

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Ah thanks for that. Yeah it sucks getting dupes, but man you must be glad you got the one you wanted and not Owl lol.

So if you had the chance before summoning, would you have outright bought panther for $650 usd?

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Possibly not that much as an outright payment… I mean the CHANCE was there that I might get her for less but I definitly would have considered spending a fair bit for her as an outright purchase…

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I also tried for Panther, but I was not successful. Congrats on your perseverance.

I do have mixed emotions as to the justifications of spending large sums of money to get a specific hero. We all choose to play the game though…


Yeah that’s why the loot crate method and gambling in general is so pervasive: there’s always the chance for your money to have a very high value.

It’d be interesting to see SG’s data and calculate the average cost of a non s1 5*. Across all spending, I’d be super curious to know what that base cost is.

Thanks for investing your time into this helpful and well thought out post :+1:t2:

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The Cost / Hero should come out in the balance at the 50% cumulative probability Cost…

In theory :wink:. Have you ever calculated that cost?

From the OP:

so 347 summons ~= 350 summons for 50%

350 summons = 35x 10 pulls
35x 10 pulls = 91,000 gems

Assuming you have 1k gems already thats 9x Mountain of Gems purchases

In my currancy:
Cost = 9* [Mountain of Gems] = 9 * 159.99 AUD = $1,439.91 AUD

Cost = 9 * [Mountain of Gems] = 9 * 99.99 USD = $899.91 USD

For comparison, that is 320 cups of coffee (at the average coffee price of $4.50 AUD)

all that is for 1 specific event hero… if we just went ANY event 5* hero:
[Probability of Success] = 1 - ( 1 - [Probability of Failure]) ^ [# of Attempts]
50% = ( 1 - 0.01) ^ x
x = 69 attempts

50% = 69 spins ~= 70 spins
70 spins = 7x 10 pulls
7x 10 pulls = 18,200 gems ~= 2x Mountain of Gems = $319.98 AUD (or 199.98 USD) = 71 cups of coffe


:flushed: wow, only $900 huh? :joy::skull:

Sorry had to update some numbers… That was for 1 specific hero… if you go for ANY 5* event hero it becomes more palatable :wink:

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