When he first came out, I didnāt have much interest in him. Then I started seeing him on top defense teams. So I tied to get him and succeeded. Almost done leveling him, but I still donāt see donāt see the appeal. Perhaps because heās new, or thereās something Iām not seeing.
The obvious spot is next to a taunt hero to make the taunt undispellable and give a recurring HoT that resets any time special skill damage is dealt which with taunt should be constant.
Not satisfied with being mere support hero, Ukkonen has a solid AoE hit. The attack down may not be as desirable as defense down but it will help your recently buffed taunt hero survive longer which will help you win battles.
Ukkonen is a brilliant combination of effects that make a real difference. Well balanced so should not need to be āadjustedā by SG.
(THIS IS INCORRECT) The Goblins just made him relatively more valuable as well, Deadboot takes dispellable buffs and gives to its allies. With Ukkonenās special active, Deadboot would steal nothing. (THIS IS INCORRECT)
Making buffs undispellable is GOLD, that is what makes Brynhild so astonishingly good and Belladonna so frustrating to fight against.
Am looking forward to pairing Ukkonen with Ludwigā¦
[EDIT: Buff Stealers CAN steal undispellable buffs, stealing is not the same as dispelling]
Thatās exactly what I do and it works brilliantly. Even means I can go without a healer at times as he keeps three of your team alive and Ludwigās taunt hopefully protects the other two.
Wow Sternman. Thank you for that. I knew there was more value there than I initially thought. Appreciate your explanation.
Think it has been tested out, dispel shield doesnāt work against stealing
Gaahhh. FFS!
Thank you @Tidyup , I will edit, I see you are correct in many threads (mostly in error threads when it happened to people like me that assumed it could not happen).
Next to the taunt seems ok⦠yet, taunt is flanking tank, right? Then he goes wing position which means he looses his 1/3 of the special. And I still don,t see how he can fit in the Kalevala family! Anyway, thanks for analysing Ukkonen (as far as he goes).
Phorcys is the one that should flank but Ludwig can tank just fine.
Lol imagine a Phenexa-Ludwig-Ukkonen lineup. If Ludwig goes off, game over.
Ludwih has allready a good chance for undispellable buffs. Why give the slot to Ukk, just to make it 100%?
Only if you have and are using at least one and preferably two other Wolf family heroes.
Ukk does, of course, take it to 100% and while that āonlyā takes place on Ukkās special, if Ukk is getting guaranteed free mana from Ludwig, then⦠yeah.
I am thinking about combining Arco, c-Sif, Ukkonen, Ludwig and Phenexa (in that order) with positioning Sif and Ludwig in front (W-formation). Still have to level Ukkonen first, but in theory this should make for a strong def lineup⦠as long as Ludwig and C-Sif fire before getting obliterated by a mono yellow team
Well yeah, imagine what I am proposing which really fits with his family:
reset all debuffs on enemies!
Thenā¦yeah! you can see where it goes once you have sent any ailment to the enemy⦠thats I expected from the last of this great family tree (Aino, Kullervo, Iku, Vaina, Luhiā¦)
Ukk-Ludwig-Phenexa (in this or reverse order) is already nasty; getting Ukk to pull double duty by renewing counterattack? Oof. --But then, I always seem to have more trouble going against counterattack than anyone has when I run my c2Obakan at tank, hah (though it may also say something about what Iām running around my counterattacker?)
I can see that, though they already gave that to Narcisa (doesnāt mean in principle no one else/ a Kalevala couldnt have it)