So, my dilemma is this. I have one and only one set of tabards and I’m sitting on 700+ barbarian emblems. My question is, do I pass up Sartana, Khiona and Domitia just to use my emblems on Obakan or should I prioritize Sartana and Khiona first.
To put everything into perspective. I have four other maxed purples (Seshat, Victor, Thoth-Amun and Kunchen) as well as several other maxed 5*.
When it comes to other barbarians, I have two unleveled heroes; Azlar and Atomos are the two other barbarians, neither of which is sitting at 3.70 yet.
In this situation I feel like Khiona is better here. I would go with her and start leveling Azlar. If you have Boldtusk and Wilbur - Azlar really shines.
I’ve got Sartana and Domitia maxed and both do fine, but Khiona attack buff is really good.
Khiona > Sartana > Obakan > Domitia for me
Obakan is the worst purple 5* if you ask me (except Mok’ar, ofc). I wouldn’t ever level such a hero. I for one, I preferred to max Domitia over him, though is average. But she has a better special and is more lethal. If you don’t know how to do with the emblems, just give them to Grimm, a barbarian extremely useful in wars, raid tournaments and epic event challenges.
Definitely Khiona first, she can’t even be compared to Obakan and she is as good as Sartana when it comes to damage as she would increase her own and other’s damage.
Zero 4* ascension items for StaceyTurner77’s Obakan.
Classic 5* Purple- Obakan
Obakan is my favorite Classic 5* purple hero.
Gryphonkit, my wife, has two Obakans ( 5*+5 AND 5* 4.80 ).
Limited time 5* heroes for the Win
But
Victor is an improved blue Classic 5* Magni ( even before Magni’s defense buff was nerfed from all allies to nearby allies)
Kunchen is a 5* interpretation of purple Classic 4* Rigard with enemy defense debuff.
Seshat is an improved purple Classic 5* Domitia. Domitia is average mana speed and yellow defense buff is very niche unlike Seshat’s meat shield minions.
Thoth-Amun fills out a 4x Purple stack. Needs a buff. If only you could give sturdy Thoth-Amun’s Tabards to attack buff Khiona for color stacking.
So no amount of Obakan will significantly increase your roster’s effectiveness.
Even 5* 3.70 Obakan will be neglected with your roster.
Emblems
If you really want to spend emblems, you could spend them on 3* Namahage.
Wishlist
Fighter Panther, Barbarian Kageburado, Wizard Hel, or a future 5* purple ( not goat Grimble and his gnome rider ) is needed to improve your roster significantly.
But. High heels!!!
Sartana
Sartana will not bring much change to you roster ( see above) especially with Victor ( anti healing, stackable unique DOT, very fast all ally defense buff, very fast sniper) and Seshat ( dispel, fast sniper).
Khiona
I would not level Khiona unless you need a purple 5* hero now, or get 12 Tabards, because there are always more purple 5* heroes coming.
Khiona would be a slight improvement over Victor, Seshat, and Thoth-Amun depending on the circumstances.
But a hero from the above wishlist would have a higher impact.
Only a game
Or you do whatever is fun for you.
Gryphonkit, my wife, uses Advanced Dark recruit training even though I showed her the math.
Grimm 4*+15
Depending on your roster and play style, 1x to 3x Grimm 4*+15 would be useful.
Edit: Yes, some players would use a blue 4* 4.70 Grimm to level another hero. Grimm is very glassy with same defense stat as blue 3* 3.50 Gunnar.
Yeah, I have Obakan. He was my first maxed 5*. I was definitely very underwhelmed. Wish I could take tabards back from him and give them to Seshat, Kunchen, or Kageburado… but I don’t regret Obakan. He was my only option at the time.
That said, if you have another option, don’t choose Obakan!
Khiona is actually pretty great hero. I use her and Seshat together all the time.
Plus, she is a rogue, and I don’t think there are many other rogue heroes that are worth spending those emblems on.
I don’t have Obakan, but don’t think of him as a challenge on defense at all.
Obakan’s biggest problem is there is no money in making Classic 4* / 5* heroes better than HotM and making heroes useful for multiple roles and upgrading old heroes periodically.
This is really glaring when you examine the Classic 4* / 5* healers versus limited time 4* / 5* healers.
Obakan/ Boss Wolf
Boss Wolf is the refinement of Obakan.
The core of the special skill is tweaked then a lot of additional effects are added.
With Boss Wolf the Devs realized counterattack works better when it covers more targets. Just like Boril, sturdy heroes like Boss Wolf work better for counterattack since they are reactive they need to be alive to react.
While useful, Obakan’s caster only counterattack and lack of sturdiness do not make the most of counterattack.
Sumitomo/ Obakan
No excuse for Sumitomo except Sumitomo and Boss Wolf are also computer controlled bosses.
I would actually like Sumitomo, and Obakan to be buffed “caster reflects 35% damage” instead of “counterattack 115%+ damage”.
Classic versus Limited time
The Obakan/ Boss Wolf counterattack situation is similar to Little John/ Hansel mana control situation.
Interestingly Obakan and Little John were created at the same time and Boss Wolf and Hansel were created at th same time.
This is about everyone’s patience. After 1 month playing, I knew everything about this game. In the first 6 months I collected so many AM to level 2 5* of each colour. But I didn’t. I had a lots of classics, but why rush? Instead I levelled at least 30 epic heroes, to have 6 strong attacks at war. I pulled 2 Elena in my first 2 months here. “Why should I waste AM on such a crappy hero?” this is what I asked myself back then. I was patient, I saved the rings and this year I got Ares, GM, Marjana and Azlar. Oh, btw, I got Obakan in my 3’rd month here. I had tabards anytime for him. But no… The most mistakes come from rushing the things. The patience it’s a virtue sometimes. And to be completely honest, I was learning from my idol, Zero. If wasn’t him, maybe I would have done the mistake levelling Obakan and other useless heroes.
Well, this is why I always advise the new players to not level legendaries. Imo, no one should focus on 5* in the first 8 months. Even if got lucky with some hotm. Why this time? Because even with VIP, this is what it takes to level your base to 20. And this is the perfect time for the next level in your career of E&P.
OK, I know, bragging again, but the fact is after 13 months playing, I can beat any player in the world, I finish usually at 1% at tournaments week after week and the 3rd tier at monthly challenges. Because I didn’t rush the things. And because I had a great teacher. It is my turn now to teach others. If they are not too proud to listen and learn
Btw, this is generally speaking, but I quoted you because the thing with Obakan. You did what you did. This is it. But I wouldn’t advise other players to rush with 5*. Unless the devs will eventually listen to our (real) complaints. Unless they will listen and introduce the feature “dismantling a hero”. How many players would strip at least one hero of his AM? Most players have one regret at least. Born by not knowing, by not having patience, by not listening, etc. And now these players would use those AM gladly for another hero. Fortunately, I have no regrets in ascending legendaries.
P.S. For a player who decide to not spend a single dime on this game, the above advices are not for him. Obviously. Level what you can, when you can.
I have both Inari and Marjana and I believe both of them deserve the rogue emblems before Khiona. I have started them on Marjana, but I will start putting them on Inari once Marjana gets high enough, but even after her, I may give them to Jackal. I like Khiona, but with Zim, Ares, Ranvir and Tarlak (I know he doesn’t boost SS) Khiona’s ability really isn’t that important to me.
He doesnt deserve the tabards, he is really underwhelming, even when maxed. Just max him if you dont have other option. He’s the worst purple 5*, even worse than Mok-Arr IMO
No. My picture says I’m not a fan of obakan but maxed one as I played with what I have. My other three just sit there collecting dust hopefully for the hero academy. I would have probably gave him emblems had I not had Gravemaker - he’s probably my second best barbarian with Grimm being third. But my second best barbarian isn’t saying he’s an awesome hero.
