Master lepus, jack, squire, damage bug?

[Obsidian]

When the rabbits use their special it takes a 20% defense down that is undispellable. I get that healers etc. can’t remove it but if I hit them with Grimm, gormek, tiburtus ramming pulv which lowers defense, it doesn’t effect them. Is this a bug since it should go lower or is it meant to lock the defense down? I managed to beat advanced Springvale but just wondering if this was meant as a “protection” against further lowering or if its a bug. Thanks.

[Drewrobi]

Not a bug, the non-dispel-able also means non-replaceable. The debuff cannot be replaced with another debuff of the same kind. In this case the 20% debuff ends up helping the wabbits

[jinbatsu]

Just like what I have discussed with @Oliz and @Noble_Weasel,…
A little benefit of those rabbit (only -20% and only 3 turn), avoiding from more dangerous debuffer -def from “Ramming Pulverizer (6 turn)” or Wilbur (4 turn) or other Normal defense debuffer.

Springvale Summons 2019 what did you get?

That is actually an interesting point. -20% defense would be a 14 percentage point improvement in the debuff from the RP trio. Undispellable just means that, if there is a cleanser on the team, they can’t remove the debuff. But RP is dispellable, so I assume it is also overwritable, both by a defense buff and (in this case) a lower defense down. The duration on the rabbits’ defense down is also 3 turns, versus 6 for RP, so I wonder if it also cuts the duration by overwriting RP. Good questions. …

Springvale Summons 2019 what did you get?

Good point…against defense debuffers…:thinking: should their defense get reduced any further…will check

[Oliz]

I did check, their defense cannot be debuff further, Grimm, Kunchen, Wilbur, Gormek…etc have practically no impact on their defenses after their specials, this is a very good strength rather than weakness.

[PapaHeavy]

This actually a good point that I didn’t consider! Thank you!

[Obsidian]

If the mods want to move this from bugs to gameplay discussion that’s fine, its not a bug. I guess it “protects” them in a way by limiting the defense down. They’re all soft defense to start so more than 20 would make them glass cannons.

[Garanwyn]

I’m not a mod, but Regulars have that power too, so: done

I think it’s useful as a tip/trick for people to know.

[yelnats_24]

Didn’t know that

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