Lianna, Kingston ... and now Alberich. What do I do?

KIngston first and Alberich second, Lianna and Lady Locke are both very good heroes and Margaret would be the last to get tonics.

In you defense you could try putting him in Joon’s spot as even if it wouldn’t be his best position (he should stay near the tank) it would give you the best results.

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Thanks @IvyTheTerrible As usual you are full of insight. And good luck with your Halloween pulls.

Regarding Emblems:

One of the reasons I have been craving Kingston, and holding off maxing Lianna, is because of emblems. I have Boldtusk at +18 holing my Fighter emblems, and the rest of the emblems - I have 147 - are unallocated as I don’t have any compelling candidates. So my plan is to leave BT as he is and give the spare 147 Fighter emblems and any new ones to Kingston.
Whereas Lianna would have been competing with Seshat, Evelyn, Alasie and Buddy for Ranger emblems.

And as for Alberich requiring Druid emblems - at the moment I have Zim in my defence and she is at +3, with the rest of my Druid emblems on Melendor at +12. I am loath to strip Melendor as I use him a lot for the passive dispel.

So I think I will go Kingston first - TODAY - and then Alberich when the next set of tonics arrive.

I had not really thought about the impact of Finley and Snow White on the use of Aegir as tank. I guess they will both be very rare for now, so I won’t worry too much.

Thanks again - best of luck at Halloween!

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Thanks @FraVit93. Yes, I have made my decision and it will be Kingston first. The emblem situation, as described in my post above, also points to Kingston

You and @Scarecrow are right that Kingston should be flank, but I also like my Aegir being flanked by Zim and Mitsy.

So I guess I will have to test out the two possible defences i.e.

Seshat-Zim-Aegir-Mitsy-Kingston vs Seshat-Zim-Aegir-Kingston- Joon

A nice problem to have!

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MELENDOR! I missed it - I knew you must have more Druid emblems than what Zim’s holding and I doubted you’d be stashing them, given that she’s on your defense team. So I 100% agree on your logic with the fighter, ranger, and druid situation. FWIW, as an attacker, my initial reaction is that I’d be more concerned with the Seshat-Zim-Aegir-Kingston-Joon defense.

Let me know if anything develops for you on the Aegir front. I have been holding off embleming him because I don’t use him a ton in raids, can give the paladin emblems to Frida and feel good about that, and also because I’m concerned about his viability as a grade A tank, long term. For now, I have no better option though. One interesting interaction is that, being flanked by Mitsuko, attacking him with Finley or Snow White is not risk-free. I also have Mits, so I’ll have to consider that. It’s tough though, since we can neither see the attacking team, nor how they performed.

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Just to close this thread out - I went with Kingston - and now have him at 4-80 +1 . I had been saving resources for months, and had JUST enough feeders and trainers stored. First time I have ever power levelled a hero - well 2 days isn’t bad!

Thanks everyone for helping me through this.
So … what is my next project? Those 12 Tabards are staring at me :rofl: . Maybe, just maybe, Domitia should have 6 of them?
No more pulls till November - or even possibly December.

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@Steve9999, I used my stack of 36 EHT’s: no Kingston, but did land Victor and two Valeria (also pulled Thorne, for what that’s worth). So I can hardly complain about the results, as I pretty clearly got above EV results, even though it’s not quite what I wanted.

I’m probably going to max Victor - I’ll have six tabards when I complete the Halloween event - and both Valeria, who I was definitely hoping for.

@IvyTheTerrible. Oh Ivy, I’m so sorry you did not get Kingston after you had been planning it for so long (like me). But at least you got your consolation Victor and two Valeria. This game can be so cruel.

I’m now not sure what to do now with my 27 EHT’s.

  • I could use on Morlovia in November for a chance at Neith (I am weak in Yellows) - but I’m not that bothered about the Morlovia heroes (all I have is a Vlad)
  • Or I could wait till Christmas. But I’m not that excited by Grimble. And then of course there is Santa and Mother North (I have Buddy). Mother North is great of course, but I have an Alby at 3.70. And Santa is good - but I have an Ares at 1.1 if I ever need a red tank!

And Spring is an awful long time to save them!
Decisions, decisions

Commiserations again on your lack of Kingston :disappointed:
Best wishes - Steve

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Thank you! It can hardly be said to be a surprise - I was fully aware it was not a great shot, and I did pull at above EV by any reasonable definition regardless. I’m going to have a heavy internal debate over the next three days if I want to do a 10x summon via gems. I was planning on doing Wonderland or Fables, so this would take the place of that. It’s still not a great shot, but may be worth is; Kingston is quite possibly more valuable to me than any upcoming event hero, partly because I have no Fighter past Boldtusk, so I can emblem him (I do have a second BT, Lancelot, and Colen, but I think they’re all a pass - too little usage to justify the emblems). It’d be different if a Magni had popped in during my EHT profligacy.

EHT in November

Your situation is interesting and I’m going to give it some more thought. My initial reaction was to wonder about how Neith would add to your yellow stacks. How do you complement Leonidas now? Would she be a viable sub for Joon or Vivica in a 3tack? Or do you put 4/5 yellows out at once?

What’s your monk emblem plan? Keep putting them on Joon? Asking because Valeria is going to be a candidate for me. Check out RaZoR’s thoughts on this.

EHT in December

I agree that Grimble seems not particularly tempting. Mother North is a gem, though between your backlog of greens and the fact that you already have Alberich, I don’t know if she adds a ton of marginal value to your roster (taking when you can get her leveled enough to be field ready into account as a key part of how I’m defining ‘value’ here). As you say, Ares is a fine red in lieu of Santa, so unless you really want another Buddy, I don’t necessarily see that Christmas is a slam dunk. You have kind of an unusual and privileged position where you already have the major points that the Christmas heroes bolster covered.

EHT in Spring

(Or later) I think I’d only do this if you felt all of the above (sooner) options presented pretty small value. That is, your opportunity cost is low, even given the long wait / you may (rage) quit in the meantime / something about buffs could change your mind / the Hero Academy does something, etc.

Thanks again for your reply @IvyTheTerrible. You are so thoughtful and generous with your time and insights.

I normally raid 3/2 (3 strong vs tank, 2 strong vs most annoying flank, with a healer in each colour). So when using 3 Yellows, its usually Joon, Viv and Leo. Occasionally I will go mono yellow with Joon-Gretel-Viv-Jackal-Leo.

Monk emblem plan is tricky, as getting Joon to node 8 needs 125 emblems, which is getting silly! Leo would need 50 for node 5. Maybe I should put a few on Wilbur, who I often use against Titans for survivability.

Yep! At this rate I will be waiting until next summer for Rana!!

Likely I will just keep them and use them at whatever seasonal summon has a desirable accompanying HOTM

I’ll probably use up to 10 or so in November for a chance at Neith, and take it from there.

As you say, I have kind of an unusual and privileged position - I’m certainly not complaining!

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Well … Kingston is maxed, and my next set of 6 tonics is complete

So soon I will pull the final ascension trigger on Alby or Lianna (I am going to finish maxing Peters first)

As a reminder I have Eve, Elk and Kingston maxed, with Alby, Lianna and Margaret at 3/70 and Lady Locke at 1/1

Defence is now stable with Sesh - Zim - Aegir - Kingston - Joon

So the 6 tonics have to go to Alby now - don’t they? Poor Lianna :slightly_frowning_face:

Having King, Lianna is not a priority anyway. Your problem is not whom to level next; Alby is the obvious choice. Your problem is how would you fit two greens in your defense. I can’t imagine a defense without King flank, best flank in the game imo, as Seshat is the best wing. Since the rainbow defenses are the best defenses for many reasons (already known), probably you will have to choose Alby as your green in AW and Kingston for raids and raid tournaments bloody battle and buff booster (Alby is better option at rush attack; but too slow for buff booster though he has buffs. Kingston is fast, lethal and his special works as debuff for enemies with atk buff).

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Yep, I’d say still continue with your plan is is. I also like finishing Peters first, as he’s viable in a variety of tournaments and wars.

@Scarecrow raises a good point. I think that once Alberich is maxed I’d consider straying from the rainbow defense formation and go

Alberich – Zimkitha – Aegir – Kingston – Seshat

I may run basically the same thing when I get the tonics for Kingston, but it’d be Mother North and Gravemaker for Alberich and Zimkitha.

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I chose Alby, he made my D team and I’m glad as I have no complete healers on there and 3 great snipers.

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Well @IvyTheTerrible, Alby got the tonics and is now maxed. Peters too.

Still reluctant to change my Sesh - Zim - Aegir - Kingston - Joon defence (even though it got one-shotted three times in the last war :frowning_face: )

Your Alberich – Zimkitha – Aegir – Kingston – Seshat idea is tempting, but has two Druids. With the emblems on Zim (and Melendor) I dont really have any for Alby.

I pulled Queen of Hearts in the last event, so am working on her now towards 3.70. Not really used her yet. Not really sure what to think of her. Sadly, White Rabbit eluded me.

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Hmmm…good point. I’m not sure I was thinking about the double-Druid factor at the time I wrote that. It might still work. Without emblems Alberich is more susceptible than you’d probably like, but his mere presence is beneficial - it’s just unclear if it’s more beneficial than Joon’s.

Basically, I imagined the way you’d hope it works is that someone has to choose between taking him out early and letting your other side fire. And Kingston’s debuff will make that hard for them. Plus Seshat may get a hefty minion shield going by the time they put Alberich down. Or if they focus on the snipers first then they have to see how unlucky they are when when Alberich fires. I guess if they can somehow tackle both sides then they were going to beat you no matter what! :stuck_out_tongue:

I’ll think about it a bit more, but not sure I have a solid idea. I don’t have much experience with the Queen of Hearts, but my initial reaction is that she isn’t really going to help; we’ll quickly run into the same probelm, as she and Aegir share a class.

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I have Zim and Alby in my defense and it works. Yes I do have to share Druid emblems, but that’s a small issue.

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