⚖ Hero Balance Discussion: Zulag

This thread is for discussing whether Zulag is well-balanced, or whether you think he needs a buff or nerf.

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:bar_chart: Poll

  • I think Zulag is reasonably well-balanced overall
  • I think Zulag is excessively weak, and needs a buff (increase of their strength)
  • I think Zulag is excessively strong, and needs a nerf (decrease of their strength)
  • I’m not sure yet

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:speaking_head: Discussion

  • If you think Zulag is well-balanced, too strong, or too weak — why?

  • Are there specific, concrete suggestions you’d make to the game designers to alter Zulag? Or are there specific reasons you think they should remain unchanged?

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Just wondering whats the point of sucha topics, we all seen where Noor´s balance discussion went to (with stunning 86% result)…exactly nowhere.

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As an aggregate place for the topic. To prevent there being like a million threads popping up. And to provide an actual set of impartial votes rather than a #ideas-feature-requests which has no real voting.

In short, to neaten the forum and to give players and outlet for their thoughts on her balance without bogging down the rest of the forum or the other Zulag thread.

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She should have better special. c-Rigard beats her in this aspect. She should either be fast (Brynhild is fast and applies better buffs) or apply all things on entire party.

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I think you underestimate how much defense she adds for 3 Heroes. She fills an anti-sniper role cause she will render them useless.

Expecting 800 basedef without troops and add 110%… all you need are 9 Tiles to make sure 3 Heroes will be nearly untouchable for 4 turns.

It doesn’t work with damage over time and is vulnerable against removal though. Here i agree: protection from removal like Brynhild or a Cleanse would make her way better and versatile.

Still i think her special is very well balanced for her speed, she just doesn’t fit into current metagame.

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If those buffs couldn’t be removed by dispell it would be suitable. In this scenario she is useless . It’s hotm 5* card. They must be unique and useful in different aspects of the game. Zulag is not.

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It wouldn’t be balanced if they could not be removed.

Her special is very unique cause she has 2 stackable buffs, a heal and minions as elemental link. Unique and versatile doesn’t mean jack of all trades though. She is useful on offense, pve and a viable purple tank(although not in the race for the best ones).

Any dispell hero counter her buffs, even 4*. With restriction on nearby heroes it must be undispellable or buffs all team. Any dot damage ignores this protection, any dispell hero remove it. Best way to make her better and playable is give her all team buff.

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Protection against dispelling like Brynhild and she would actually be interesting.

As is, she’s useless to me. She could be a good tank for new players with small rosters. She could be used as a flank but would not pair well with counterattack heroes. The “good thing” is that there are no good yellow dispellers besides Vivica costume if I remember correctly. But unless you pair her with green (so that you’d use red which doesn’t have a lot of heroes to dispel) I could always bring one Sonya, one Domitia, one Caedmon or Melendor, one Sabina, etc.

I’ve met many defenses with very defensive heroes like Raffaelle. The dispellable part of his skill makes him very manageable.

Maybe Zulag will have good synergy with other heroes. But for now I don’t want her.

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She is playable as she is! One doesn’t have to be Gravemaker level to be so.

You are right as a tank she is easy countered but so are a lot of other tanks too.

On Offense though you have multiple ways to make use of those Buffs. How many Seshats you face? Quite alot, but propably not 30 i guess. So chances are you can use her against a team without dispel.

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Who needs weak HOTM? As you see by votes - nobody. Top100 is full of Seshats, Domicias, Kageburados, Finleys and other cards that puts using Zulag in offense team under big question. I tried to find a place for her in my roaster, but no, left her for better times.

Well if Top100 Gameplay is the only benchmark for you then well yes she is propably to weak but so is the majority of Heroes cause Top 100 Gameplay is dominated by the best heroes in slot.

However there is also lower-mid Diamond where you face Heroes like Azlar or C-Quintus. HoTM are not only created for top 100 gameplay :slight_smile:

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All heroes must be well balanced and especially HOTM. It’s special hero, not regular. And if it can’t be used in top100 defence or offense it’s weak and bad. Only if it can be taken to titans and here it’s useless too. Standard Sartana or Domicia is better choise for recourse spending.

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review said only good as tank…will be gr8 if the balance can put him great on flank…

Only place i can see her doing a decent work is in buff tournaments with yellow restriction.
Though shes still very weak to dispel, and her role as a tank is very passive. You can throw tiles to her trying to fix the board and neutralize her later with a dispel.

I dont see her in offense neither. I have two c.rigards maxed, a third coming up and an aeron waiting there.
I will take any of those any day before Zulag.

I don’t share your opinion on how HotM should be designed and how heroes should be balanced in general.

From my point of view there are Tiers for heroes:

A Tier: top heroes overall and best in there respective competition (e.g Seshat as a sniper)

B Tier: good Heroes which can compete with A-Tier heroes butare slightly weaker (Lianna versus Kingston)

C-Tier: good Heroes that can be played but are alot weaker then A-Tier Heroes (Domitia versus Seshat)

D-Tier: unplayable in the majority of scenarios (Grimble after release due to lack of Minion-Summoners)

Most Heroes for me either fit in B or C-Tier only a handfull will standout like Telluria or Gravemaker.

Even according to your rank Zulag fits C- or IMHO D-class. It’s bad for HOTM hero. It may be good for 20 camp hero not for rare HOTM

I think she is rubbish… just another ■■■■■■-check tank like Kasshrek or Aegir…

She definitely needs some improvement…

1, make the buffs party-wide…this would make her a good flank
2, make it undispellable = good tank
3, add an"after this effect ends… " portion to her skill… does not have to be a nuclear bomb, something like:

“When this effect ends remove all status ailments from all allies and all buffs from enemies.”

This would make her a well rounded tank and support hero…

EDIT: I apologise… i did not know that that word is on the censore-list…

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