I have listened to every persons opinion. With that statement i was saying that if you are coming to your minion cap then you are doing well in your raid, which is exactly what someone else said.
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how long do we need to wait for a buff 1 year or 2 ?
Raffaele was voted on since june and still nothing has changed so what is the point ?
Skadi got one fairly quick
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Your passive agressiveness makes you look like a … person who doesn’t participate in forums discussions very often 
Amusing. But off-topic.
@Pompitous Hopefully I’ll get Bera when the buff pops up. I’ve been saving Valhalla coins for any 5* there…
I’m looking forward to seeing face-off of 5 moths vs 1 sparrow. I think the sparrow will get one or two.
Maybe 3.
The messed up part will be Noor’s skill completely disabled!..
did we vote on it ? No.
talking about voting on hero’s for buff and nerf
Man, that would be sad to watch to be honest lol. I hope devs don’t do Noor like that. She has some potential.
@Junkies I voted already but based on past experiences with Margareth and Atomos, it’s gonna take a long time before they implement any buffs.
Devs usually only act fast when there’s a lot of complaints. Telluria and Vela are clear examples.
I regret spending my money to get noor, she’s too bad
I think they already did. Between her speed and lacking other effects. I’m beside myself at the amount of birdsong in the air! It makes me want to take her past 3.7 to see what I’m missing but… that gives the sparrows 52hp. While her 3.7 contribution is not dropping my jaw.
I keep looking for videos where she is the game changer but… the other heroes still have to seal the deal so…
Meh… Imma wait!
Will they use Bera in defense?
I don’t know. I imagine someone will.
But personally… I haven’t been finding summons to be… uh… more effective on offense than boosted damage.
On defense it’s amazing!
I have a summon team for war and it’s more miss than hit…
I wonder suddenly… there is a stat boost on defense right?
That might explain why my summoning attack squad is a flat tire. While defense they put up a Wall!
And in the vote, forum user do not even ask for buff.
Monk would still be better imo. She doesn’t need to protect herself from mana ailments as she’s currently the only hero in the game who can do something with 0 mana required. She needs to resist status ailments against heroes…like bera.
Here’s my train of thought. Unlike heroes like Baldur, her skill benefits all and not just herself. Even if 3 thorn minions were to replace her old sparrows, her teammates who are not druids will benefit from her instant minion kill sparrows. And because of how fast they reproduce for her, it doesn’t matter for the long run.
Thorn minions at lv20 only has a 15% of being summoned while Sparrows have a 100% chance of being summoned as long as there’s an opposing summoner. I don’t think thorn minions are the main issue here, she just needs a better talent class.
Monk is the perfect alternative class for her because I think monk also has a good amount of health nodes, this better at meatshielding. And she can withstand ailments that will affect her summoning abilities against you know…bera
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I found this:
[Have we ever figured out how stat boosts are calculated when defending? - #2 by Garanwyn]
@Guvnor do you know if 
still true?
If this is still the case then, minions are going to have more impact on defense.
While on attack they feel like they’re just dragging out the inevitable beating.
Plus… on attack your wings aren’t protected from the AI as the defense is protected from tiles. Which gives some Creedence to Noor if the sparrow survives and clears a wing’s triple stack.
That feels pretty good.
Which for me is about 1 out of 5 matches…
And I suppose that number might increase if I ascend Noor but… I just can’t justify it. My other attack squads have genuine impact
It is. You can check it yourself. Simply look at the defending team stats & troops before starting the raid. Then in game, tap & hold on the same defending hero for their in-raid stats. Compare the pair.
Yes extra 20% of attack and defense for defending hero is correct.
As long as Bera is not in defense with Telly, Noor will still have niche use.
I check it and calculate the troop, the stat shown mid battle is with troop but not with the 20% defender bonus.
However I already check it with damage calculation and they are indeed exist but invisible.
Hey you came at me. Passive aggressive is just reacting to aggressive agressive.
And i participate plenty in forum discussions buuuddy
I like Noor somehow. But I dont quite get The enormous difference in quality if compared to Bera. In essence Bera is what we asked of of Noor.
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I would have asked. And I do remember complaints. Skadi is not a hero killer, and wasn’t killing minions either! She needed it. And in my opinion has more value than Noor. Yet is not OP.
So what is Noor then? Still just an opinion piece 
I think you will see Bera on defense but, I’m uncertain as to what extent. First of all… uncertain as to if she will be released as is!
But some heroes are windshields on defense. And then on offense they are the bug.
Like Guinevere or Alberich.
I don’t like Telly on offense either. But on defense she’s still breaking raid buttons.
Defense is usually a moving target. My alliance recorded data with war records improving when Alberich was replaced by firepower on defense.
I can guarantee that someone will try Bera.
Flank or wing
And if it is successful?.. more will try it.
But I doubt it would be so successful as Telluria.
My Summon heroes seem to be bugs on offense. I don’t know why yet. But I bet the invisible 20% has something to do with it.
Which makes me wonder how many other players are finding summon heroes to be splat on offense.
And if that is large number…
Then Bera will be rare. We’ll see…
Maybe I’m missing something on my summon squad
But I’m not alone on the concept of replacing firepower. Even if you are a Noor fan. You better have allies who can finish the job. Because sparrows are NOT hero killers either. Firepower will always be a windshield.
I suppose the windshield/bug door swings both ways. Noor is definitely a splat on defense. So…
She is supposed to be an offensive what? Weapon?
No…lol.
Offensive support hero then?
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