[Guide, Wiki, Tactics] Placement of heroes when attacking - titans, bosses, raids, Jabberwocky, Gato

[Gryphonknight]

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[Guide, Wiki, Tactics] Placement of heroes when attacking - titans, bosses, raids, Jabberwocky, Gato

Normal titans

Question

does the placement of heroes whilst facing a titan matter?

Answer

@Gryphonknight

Rarely

Question

Whilst facing a titan does the middle one protect the flanks, and the flanks protect the wings in an overlapping manner?

Answer

No.

For normal titans no. They are attack all special skills.

Rare titans

Some rare titans have special skill, effect mana generation, target and nearby. So placing heroes in the corner protects them from RNG ( see notes ). Spreading out important heroes keeps all from being effected by the target and nearby reduced mana generation ( see notes ).

I use the same placement for normal titans so I do not forget when facing rare titans.

Raids and Bosses

Usually attacking hero team placement is more important in

• raids / tourney / war

• triple bosses ( Class quests, Challenge events, Masquerade quest, Seasonal events )

• Season 2 Bosses.

See notes for tips.

Jabberwocky

Jabberwocky boss for Wonderland attacks edge heroes. In this case putting your toughest attacking heroes in the corner may help.

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Rare tier Jabberwocky

For rare tier Jabberwocky, one tactic is to place a blue 3* Gato in each of the attacking flanks to prevent Jabberwocky’s non dispellable poison.

Rare Tourney Gato

Blue 3* Gato is useful in Rare Tourneys.

If attacking a defense team with many special skills debuffs ( accuracy debuff, mana debuff, defense debuff, etc. ) place your two most important heroes on either side of blue 3* Gato for best results.

Rare Tourney 2x Gato

Sometimes you will use two blue 3* Gato in a tourney. Placing your two Gato as flanks on your attacking team can help protect all your heroes.

You must balance using two Gato’s protection from enemy debuffs versus using your defense debuff heroes ( Valen, Ulmer ) and your ally buff heroes ( Gunnar ).

Defense debuff heroes ( Valen, Ulmer ) are useful when attacking stronger teams, but not as helpful if enemy Ulmer has fired during a Rush Attack tourney.

Ally defense buff heroes ( Gunnar ) during a Rush Attack tourney can overwrite defense debuff on your allies from a enemy hero ( Valen, Ulmer ) replacing it with a defense buff.

Color stacking

Color stacking, Empires hidden buff

@Gryphonknight

Double strong color, no weak color, teams==

Now that you have two rainbow teams ( one 3* 3.50 and one 4* 3.60 ) you can create double strong color, no weak color teams.

If you are attacking a Green Boss, then Red heroes are better because they are strong against green, so Green bosses takes double damage. The opposite is true of Blue heroes. Blue heroes cause half damage to a Green boss. The other colors ( Green, Purple & Yellow ) do neutral damage or no increase or decrease in damage.

When attacking a Green boss, remove your BLUE 4* 3.60 hero ( half damage against Green ) from your rainbow 4* 3.60 team, and replace it with your RED 3* 3.50 hero ( double damage against Green ) for a double red, no blue team.

You will do 1 HP of damage with blue matches/ board damage, since you are missing a Blue hero. But your two Red heroes will do double damage. Even if your Red 3* 3.50 hero dies against a Green boss, twice its attack stat will still be added when doing matching/ board/ physical damage.

==Weird color teams==

Other teams:

triple strong color,

quadruple strong color,

double neutral color,

double neutral three color teams and

single color teams.

Once you have more experience with rainbow teams and double strong color, no weak color teams, you can learn more about these weird alternatives.

==Elemental shields or Reflect color enemies==

When you fight an enemy with an elemental shield, it is weak to a color, strong to a color and REFLECTS a color. Example: A Reflect green boss takes double damage from Red heroes, half damage from Blue heroes, and reflects all damage from Green heroes back to that hero. So a triple red, no blue, no green team OR a double red, double yellow/ double purple, no blue no green team works better than a rainbow team. Example you can remove your Blue 4* 3.60 and Green 4* 3.60 heroes and replace them with one Red 3* 3.50 hero and one Purple/ Yellow 3* 3.50 hero.

So having a rainbow 3* 3.50 and a rainbow 4* 3.60 lets you take on Reflect color enemies until you level up a second rainbow 3* 3.50, second rainbow 4* 3.60, etc.

Notes

@Garanwyn

Any of the center 3 heroes have equal chances to be hit by splash attacks. Left corner, left flank and center as targets will all do splash damage to left flank, for instance.

@Garanwyn

Probability of being hit by a randomly-targeted splash attack:

Corner: 40%
Flank: 60%
Center: 60%

@Kerridoc

2. Do any of the opponents have specials that attack nearby heroes? If so, try to create a gap between important heroes that could be hit by those opponents.

• Example: Gravemaker hits three adjacent heroes and does extra damage against nature heroes, so if you are bringing two nature heroes against GM, try to put them on opposite sides of the lineup.

@IvyTheTerrible

Let’s say I feel I need to strongly counter something in my opponent’s offense, such that I bring two heroes with a given (similar) skill. This could be two healers, or two dispellers. Separate those heroes, such that they can’t both be simultaneously affected by mana control skills.

Wiki notes

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[sft1965]

Thanks for the write up. Glad there is someone who is a supporter of 2,1,1,1 teams out there too.

[Rochelle]

Thanks for this timely topic. Alliance was chatting on this subject yesterday.