Elradir – 5* Nature/ Green - June 2021 HOTM (Hero of the Month) -- Initial Release

And I’m here deciding if MA really is a special skill or a regular slash attack. A special skill will state in the middle of the screen the special. But for MA when announced is a pop-up above the affected target. But @Homaclese has stated that it can be dodged. So which is it? Is it a special or not? Omg I can’t believe I’m tearing my hair over this

And no it’s not a slash attack because you know why, Lord Loki copies MA. If MA was a slash attack, he would have attack with villain swing instead. Geez this is turning into full blown debate on wtf is MA exactly

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That is the bet that if C Kad’s special is up then it might even cause minions to appear when a dodge happens because of C Kad’s special? It seems to be a similar special to Baldur’s ongoing special which looks and feels like a slash attack but has all the characteristics of a special.

On another note it was brought up in my alliance that for his reflect to work, 4 of your heroes need to take ongoing DOT damage and therefore can’t be cleansed. Does this bring up only the second use case in existence for Shale? At 9/10 tiles he can cleanse 3 leaving Elradir and one sacrificial lamb uncleansed…

Ooh, ooh, just a thought, is this the bit where Reuben gets useful? Because you want to keep the ailments but not suffer from them too much? (Grasping at straws perhaps.)

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I am not sure, but would you end up reflecting half the DOT too?

If not, then I will grant you have a use case for him. But still… put that Reuben away. Nobody wants to play with him.

Are there any synergies with greens? I suppose 4 kingstons and an Elradir would make for a good anti fire DOT team, but not the easiest to attain… Or you could go a bunch of Yang Mais and him vs Vela…, or a gang of Clarissas vs a non Clarissa poision team, or a gaggle or Uraeusses against a sand people team…

Myztero and Elradir is actually not a bad synergy. You can reflect for 3 turns and straight afterwards you can send it back with Myztero and heal/cleanse at the same time - 2 rounds of DOT (preferably double DOT) would dibilitate most teams. Assuming you could get the timings right.

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@Guvnor in the hero description there is the symbol A but it is written fast instead of average :hugs:

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Tested against Alfrike: he resists mindless attack :wink:

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Gee, like I have been saying the whole time, there needs to be rules clarification because the wording is too vague. :blush:

VERY helpful thread, learned that my Poseidon blocks Mindless Attack. Feel like a chump as he often rides the bench in rush wars.

Elradir feels like someone you put in a war team with the aim of using his reflect, build up to take advantage of it. So maybe Sif off to the other side so he reflects and those under her protection take reduced damage. Several non-cleansing healers (they do exist but we don’t tend to focus on them). Maybe if someone maxed a Zulag she can be off to the side instead of Sif.
The team that goes hard against DoT defenses:
Elradir / Kiril (cost. or plain) / AoE / Healer&cleanser affect 3 / Sniper

Elradir / Brynhild / Healer & Cleaner affect 3 / Brynhild / Sniper

Could always have Proteus instead of a sniper if the opponent has a healer, shut the healer down…

Elradir looks fun albeit niche.

Mindless attack is definitely not a slash attack.

First of all its a status effect, because of that it can be blocked by heroes like Vanda, grazul… And nothing happens. This is also the reason why you have a symbol on the target and why mindless attack can be cleansed.

Like every status effect, mindless attack does something. Like the status effect burn gives burn damage. The status effect mindless attack changes the special skill of a hero. Nothing more, nothing less, it doesn’t do any damage on its own.

The new special skill reads like this


You can see here, the hero has a new special skill. If he fills his mana he will use his special skill like every other hero, using a special skill will reduce his mana to 0, it can be dodged reflected and whatever another special skill could also do. That is also why loki if he copies someone under mindless attack will hit on of his allies, he copied a special skill that says hit your teammate.

So in my interpretation Eleadir shouldn’t block mindless attack, his ability doesn’t say anything about not changing his special skill, and when his mana is full under mindless attack he will use his special skill, so in my opinion nothing to block here.

Edit: tested it with miki, his passiv ability can block mindless attack, so Eleadir will also block it.

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That’s also neither nor. Baldurs first hit is a special skill. Everything after that is neither special skill nor slash attack, but damage through status effect like burn damage or the damage gulli does. Reuben, who only effects status effects can half the damage from gulli and Baldur. And during the cleans wars his effect will get canceled and he will stop hitting enemies.

It would be nice if someone could test it if Elradir reflects them. Although I don’t think that’s the case, because his card say reflects damage from their status effect, but gulli and Baldur give the status effects to themselves, not to Elradir.

It shares the characteristics of an individual special attack as it can be dodged by class ability and also by c kads special

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Is he also resist to Hanesl’s and Gretel’s ailment too ?

Tested it with Reuben, and yes it seems to be a special skill although it’s written on the card as status effect. He doesn’t put the damage in half and Baldur even targets only taunt heroes for example. Crazy.
So Elradir won’t reflect Baldur for sure.

But gulli maybe? At least with that I’m sure the damage is a status effect.

Clecic can block it too and have same description. It happen many times that my CB Rigard block Alfrike mindless attack. The description is usually a bit ambiguous.

In fact, Baldur buff damage isn’t 100% special skill since Glenda can’t boost that damage. I don’t know why but I think it is its own category. Could you test Reuben buff vs mindless attack, Reuben buff vs Gulli and Taunt vs mindless attack ?

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Mindless Attack doesn’t just replace your special skill, it also kinda blocks you from using it (at least yourself). This doesn’t happen a lot but there are instances where you are afflicted with mindless attack while having full mana on your own turn and in those cases you cannot cast mindless attack (although if you try clicking i think it says “cursed”, not “silenced/blocked” or whatever it says for example for Miki)

Was lucky to get him…i don’t think he is op but he has his niche…i have a deep roster and i like him, a lot.
His special damage is ok, but the reflect can be handy in the right situation since he gains mana from ailments received too.
The skill block resist is sweet and so is the elemental link.
Overall a niche but nice hero to have indeed.

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I don’t know, not a big fan of that ability. Sure the damage is nice, but I don’t understand this part “The caster reflects 100% of the damage received from their status ailments to enemies for 3 turns”. Soo, if the enemies do not use damaging status ailments…this is pointless. He seems a bit underpowered for a 5* HOTM. Maybe modify it to where he and nearby allies reflect damage from status ailments?

I mean if someone throws an 11 damage a turn bleed on you…big whoopee lol

It would be difficult for this guy to find a place on my teams…

What do you all think?

Gravemaker,vela,rana,bera for example…he ll reflect those to all the enemy team…call that niche and i agree but he aint bad by all means…
Also against bera every turn he ll have free mana.

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Yeah you’re right. But he would be easily countered as well with those dispels, so idk, still seems like he needs modified a bit.

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