šŸ§Ŗ Early Information on the Path of Valor [Part of the Beta Beat v25 & v26]

Yeah I figured as much. :man_shrugging:

Oh well. I guess Iā€™ll just wait and see what the rewards are vs. the price and decide then whether or not itā€™s worth it.

As for the revenue, Iā€™m pretty sure they donā€™t really care what I think, but minor details like this donā€™t exactly make me want to renew my VIP. I mean, they already have my money, and itā€™s a paltry amount compared to what some people spend on the game, but still. Before, I would have recommended VIP to a new player who was looking to get some in-game perks without spending a bunch of money. But now Iā€™m going to have to wait and see what this ā€œValorā€ thing is all about. It might end up being a better deal than VIP.

I figured it was only a matter of time before they introduced a juiced-up, more expensive version of VIP, but I kind of thought it would be a bundle deal, not two completely separate things. When I bought the one year of VIP, the idea was that if you buy the whole year, you get 2 months free. Cool! But now they have a 1 month deal that is actually cheaper than the price I paid and also includes extra gems on top of that. Stupid me for buying at the high end of the market, huh? :crazy_face:

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If i have to say, i just probably switch from buying Vip builder to Vip valor.

I have enough Vip builder to complete what iā€™m most interested, and the 2 builder intensify the iron bottleneck.
I donā€™t mind slow down my building if the cost is somewhat the same (aka about 10$).

Yes, F2P is long dead in here, and i already predicted something like that.

I do not want to increase my average spending, so when the time comes i will just choose where to ā€œmoveā€ my budget.

This path of valor fit well with my style and my behaviour, so i canā€™t say iā€™m not interested in it.
But give Small Giant more money then before is still a big no-no for me.

Iā€™m still very pissed that a feature annunced 1 year ago (Hero Academy) and that they know we are really waiting for has been shifted for your last minute idea to make more money.

You can do that AFTER Hero Academy Small Giant Games.

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If the premium rewards are really that great, then this Valor pass will be an expensive one. More expensive than VIP pass for sure. Iā€™m expecting about 30$ and would be very surprised if itā€™s cheaper than 10$.

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For now the prices include 1500 gems, some emblems, AM, various items new and old, some tokens.

If you buy Vip builder you get 900 gems, second builder, normal tokens, emblems.

Vip builder last 30 days, Vip valor 50 days.

Differently from Vip building that you get your price just log in everyday, you must sweat your rewards and it may happen you are not be able to get them all.

Nope, if i have to bet i would say twice the cost of builder.

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We should have looked a long long time ago. I should have kept to playing (insert forbidden console titles)

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So just like the 75-gem continue offer in raid tournaments? Ooh I might miss out on a silver token!

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Not quite like it, because you can see exactly what youā€™re going to lose. Thereā€™s no RNG factor.

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Hey, you never know; if I hadnā€™t paid to continue in this raid tournament I would have missed out on TWO silver tokens!

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Not quite, but the same kind of reasoning and marketing. And we all know what happened to the loot there.

PS I hate replying to a post and losing track of where I was in a thread.

I actually think this is even more effective marketing.

Itā€™s more like a great deal on an offer. Removing RNG is huge.


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Luckily I did that this time :stuck_out_tongue:

Reading through all this I will say I like the idea of the 50-day quest. It certainly interests me more than the alchemy lab did (I know they would price it out of my range) or the costumes (skins) which always seemed like theyā€™d be a major grind (like we donā€™t have enough). This is adding interest to the grind we already do.

As I said earlier, I will await judgement for the final result.

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Wow

So my question is about the relic that increases how many battle items you bring by 2. Does it apply to titans? My alliance is in the 5*-6* titan range and to get to the first tier of titan parts dropping it takes 7 harpoons. So if I could bring 7 harpoons that guarantees titan parts for everyone if I had that relic.

Yes, it currently applies to everywhere you can bring Battle Items.

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Another nail on the Coffin.
So now for me itā€™s clear.
Free to play players from now on will be second division, not only because we have less chances but THE SAME RNGā€¦ That is normalā€¦
But because without paying we will have always worse rewardsā€¦

Definetely if they release this, as it is, I will abandon the game. And I have been two years playing, and I like the gameā€¦ But if I liked this game was because it was fair for the ones that donā€™t payā€¦ I will always have worse teams that the people that pay, but I have the same opportunitiesā€¦
Of course people that pay must have better teams, but this is different. Without paying it takes me around 6 months to level a 5*, and paying itā€™s much shorterā€¦ I understand that ā€¦

But having better rewards if you payā€¦ It breaks the game for meā€¦

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What makes this different to you than some people purchasing more offers than other people?

This is effectively just another offer to purchase items, just in a different format than the ones that donā€™t require any effort, just money.

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I would guess theyā€™d want to do it between seasonal events to keep players logging in.

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I agree that the result should be the same.
But what I donā€™t like is the conceptā€¦
There are two rewards levels.
Rewards for those who pay and rewards for those who doesnā€™t.
With this new filosophy in mind translating to all new concepts of the game, the odd for hotm could be 5% if you pay and 1,5% if you donā€™tā€¦
So at the end the gap between paying and not paying will be huge, and not paying players will be second division players in all the aspects of the gameā€¦
Untill now it was mainly that paying you had more chancesā€¦ (Except buying the 4* Ascension materialsā€¦)

For me this shows the new path of development since SGG was purchasedā€¦

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What do you mean ā€œfrom now onā€? Itā€™s been this way really since HOTM were introduced.

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I mean that once you open that door. All the developments will be on that direction.
It is a difficult decision to do that.
Saying that if you pay your reward is higher.
Itā€™s a concept never implemented in the game.
It they do once, they will do it moreā€¦

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If you pay you increase your odds at the HOTM through quantity of chances. That door was already opened. This is a possible change in style but not concept.

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