šŸ§Ŗ Early Information on the Path of Valor [Part of the Beta Beat v25 & v26]

I guess we just disagree on this.

There are already plenty of offers in the game that can be purchased to get additional Ascension Materials, Emblems, Crafting Ingredients, Battle Items, Trainer Heroes, EHT, ETT, Atlantis Coins, etc.

I donā€™t really see how this new offer to purchase those items is so radically different than all other offers to purchase those items.

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And to be fair I should say that it really doesnā€™t bother me that much. itā€™s the P2W who keep the game viable for us cheapsters.

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Are we looking at something like [ā€œ20xā€ difference in rewards]
5 common herbs vs 10 fine steel
1 dragon bone vs 20 dragon bone
1 grey token vs 1 gold token

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Do you mean for the free vs. premium?

Iā€™d compare it to be more like the Seasonal Event Offer Calendars.

The FREE days will get you some farmables, flasks, or a token. And there arenā€™t a lot of those days/milestones.

The paid offer days will get you anything money can buy, and there are a ton of them.

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If that is all the difference is, it wonā€™t be huge.

My concern is:
1x emblem vs 50x emblems
1x battle manual vs 1x damascus blade.

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The rewards in Beta currently are placeholder, but theyā€™re an even steeper gap than that.

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Jeezā€¦ I mean, I agree that the premium rewards should be better. They need to encourage people to spend, but stillā€¦ 50 days of logging in every day, a free player deserves a 4* mat and a decent chunk of emblems.

This is all coming from a spender. Iā€™m not a whale, I wonā€™t spend until I get what I want(I want Zimkitha badly, but I reached my summon limit without getting her, so I stopped), but I definitely spend. Part of that reason is free players. There arenā€™t enough spenders to make a game like this fun. The game relies on having free players. Tossing them a bone every once in awhile isnā€™t too much to ask :confused: and it is good in the long run, since if they all left, well, Iā€™d have almost no one left to play withā€¦ so Iā€™d stop spending and leave, too.

Full disclosure: I can almost guarantee I will buy the Valor Pass. So I am expecting the premium rewards, yet Iā€™m still upset about the free onesā€¦

I know they are said to be placeholders, but it takes time to put in all those rewards. Itā€™s easy, but it is monotonous, I thinkā€¦ so I wouldnā€™t be surprised if these rewards ended up being what was finalā€¦

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Again, disclaimer that the Beta rewards are currently placeholder ā€” but in the current rewards, theyā€™d get 0 4* Ascension Materials, and 0 Emblems. Neither is currently available in the free rewards.

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If this ends up being the final solution, then people will COMPLAIN and we will see players who QUIT because of this.
give at least some emblems for free. Itā€™s possible for the events to have a fairly big amount of emblems as completion awards. We should definitely get them for these new missions. Otherwise I donā€™t see why free players should bother with those missions. A dragon bone is not good enough :unamused:

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No 4* Crafting Ingredients in the free rewards currently either. :man_facepalming:

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Now for example I get better rewards seeing mystic vision ads that fighting 5 days in tournamentsā€¦
In 50 days as a free player to get nothing will make me think about continuing playingā€¦
If I get better rewards with 50 days of mystic vision than playing the gameā€¦
It makes me wonder if this game is for meā€¦
I donā€™t care viewing ads because is the way o contribute to the development of the game, and making criticall mass of players so the game is playable.
But if I get nothing back, Iā€™ll quit because maybe this game has change and itā€™s not designed for me.

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Iā€™m not gonna judge this right now because it can still changeā€¦but this is how to screw over a loyal player base

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Iā€™m gonna try to be positive and think the will change something to the better during beta.

But after the alchemy lab fiascoā€¦ I start to see a tendencyā€¦

This and hero academy will show if I am right or not

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I think that this is just replacing a lost revenue for SG. VIP is nice but not necessary to continue for established players. You get gems, silver tokens, and emblems each day. For newer building players itā€™s more of a necessity. So it gives more options. Also similar to gem deals that come up its is transparent for what you are receiving. So knowing what can be recieved makes it easy to decide if the purchase is lucrative to your account or not. I like the idea, and I am excited to see how it actually rolls out.

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Are you sure that youā€™re in the right beta? This seems very unSG-likeā€¦

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Itā€™s really just a different format for a purchased offer, which fits right into the existing trends.

They just make you work for it instead of handing it over automatically. Itā€™s like a far more involved version of VIP, where you need to log in daily and complete tasks to collect the rewards included in the purchase.

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big question is ā€¦ will it also be as affordable as VIP is? VIP for me is the epitome of my vc2p style. A Valor Pass for say $15-20 per month would make me seriously reconsider my involvement with this game.

I also think there is a big difference between the Valor Pass and regular gem/mat offers. Those I can by now easily ignore and tell myself ā€œitā€™s ok, these are just a shortcut and Iā€™ll just grind some more to catch up with the whalesā€ (of course deep down I know that will never happen). In the Path of Valor concept, the grinding is limited by missions/stages you can complete and the Pass would always dangle the loot youā€™re missing out on in front of your nose. After all, isnā€™t the chase for awesome loot and the thrill that comes e.g. with opening a elemental or war chest one of the main reasons we love this game?

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This really is the question, and I can imagine a very wide pricing range that they might be considering ā€” and very different community reactions accordingly.

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It includes gems and an epic summon. I would be shocked if it was less than $10. Iā€™m really hoping for $9.99. Any more than that is horrible, unless it lasts the whole 50 days. Is it monthly renewal or does one purchase carry you for the whole 50 day event?

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Itā€™s a single purchase for the whole duration, based on how itā€™s set up in Beta.

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