I have 2 Richards, Quintus, Neith, and Joon as duplicates so thatās five new heroes, even if it takes a few re-rolls on them in HA10. I still donāt have Vivica, Magni, Isarnia, and a couple other normal S1 heroes. Iād trade any of my dupes for one of these even if I donāt get a HOTM or S2 hero.
I also just got Thorne. Even though heās not a dupe Iām not wanting to waste 6telescopes on him, might consider him a dupe also!!! lol
Yup. Except you get a chance every two days with TC20. And it is very feasible to run two or three of them, even possible to run 4. (15-60 chances per month) vs 7 days for the only hero academy you get (4 chances per month)
Well, this signals the end of the road for vetās. There is no way to get the heroes you need. No end-game reward. They obviously donāt want to keep paying clients. The odds of getting what you need even if you are extremely lucky is extremely low and takes way to long.
5% = 2-3 per year if you are lucky - will most likely be a dup of what you have or undesirable heroes like Mok.
For long time players who need a certain or combination of heroes like Panther, Miki, Tarlak this is just the final blow.
SGās greed & blatant disregard for consumer satisfaction leaves a very bad taste in the mouth.
They are clearly out of touch with reality. Stick around for another 3 years of empty promises? No thank you, itās insulting, pass. Time to move on.
Thatās true. Though more than 2 TC20 makes only sense if you donāt have many heroes to level as it will slow down leveling. And you could still without a 5* for weeks. And then there might only be a few s1 heroes you wanna have which lowers the odds to get a desired hero to 1% or less.
If there are still 3 heroes from S1 you wanna have and you have a few dupes, you have a 20% chance to get a hero you like from HA10 every week. Maybe 18-19%, considering some of there are some none s1 you donāt want. And as long you get crap you can use that hero for HA10 again. Looks to me much more attractive than TC20. Even with only 2 or 1 desired s1 heroes.
And Iāve read in the forum that people got 5 Horghalls from TC20 but still no Joon, Magni or Sartana. For them HA is the much better ressource I think. For everyone only looking for none s1 heroes, HA10 is much less attractive of course.
I currently run 3 TC20 to get 5*. Only 1 for feeder. If I can run 3 HA10 I will run it as 7 days for 95% S1 5* is better than 2 days for 5% S1 5*.
But how many of the S1 heroes are you interested in? Would you get excited about Horghall or Khagan?
TC20 has a 0.25% appearance rate for each legendary hero. Letās say there are four heroes you want, that is a 1% chance per run. With three TC20 thatās about 10% chance per week to get one of them.
In HA10 you have an 4.75% appearance rate for each S1 hero. Letās say there are 70% of none S1 heroes you are interested in. In total thatās a 22.5% chance per week to get a desired hero. Plus you could additionally still keep one ore two TC20 running.
So I think, for everyone who is still interested in some of the S1 heroes, HA10 is better. Of course you need a 5* dupe to feed firstā¦
EDIT: I realized it is even 5% chance per S1 hero, not 4.75%. I forgot to substract the hero you put in HA10 from the hero pool.
Yes as I am a collector and I happen to not have them both yet.
Is this a typo? Do you mean HA10?
I did 50 trainings at a time and got my first 4* trainer on the first pull of 5th batch. Tempted to do 250 more but I have enough for now 
| * | qty | % |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | 128 | 51,2% |
| 2 | 92 | 36,8% |
| 3 | 29 | 11,6% |
| 4 | 1 | 0,4% |
Fair enough. But especially in your case then, one HA10 is a great option. As soon as you have a dupe and put it to HA10 your chances to get a desired hero are 100% minus 5% for each already collected hero (except for the one fed of course). Thatās much better oddds than 3 TC20 and of course, you can still run both!
But I only need 1 TC for feederā¦ I donāt really have many heroes to level, I even start to level the collectionsā¦
As I said, if you have any dupes you could feed to HA10, Iād recommend to run both. Depending on which building you use for HA, you could even rund 3 TC 20, 1 HA10 and on TC for feeders.
If I can build 3 HA, I will build it on my 3 TC20 
and left 1 for feederā¦
It will be costly to run so manyā¦
If only you could build more than 1. At least current version allows use of 2 levels at same time so you can make a troop whilst waiting on horghall to become Quintus
I want the other way aroundā¦ I have 2 Quintus and 0 Horghalā¦ 
I just lack Quintus and Leonidas. But at a 9.5% chance at getting one of them from HA 10 each week Iām still not sold on the idea when levelling my 2nd and 3rd Joon and Sartana will probably have greater impact in war
Have I missed this announcement?
Itās been shared now. I quoted it in the top post of this thread, under āOfficial Notice from Small Giant Staff.ā