Beta testerās opinions is not very different from what is happening here 
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We need a little fresh blood to fight the Telly monster!
How many millions do we have to throw in SGās throat to get some useful new vanilla heroes??
More than three years E&P and not a single new hero for TC20ā¦some new blood for the community will weaken the bitterness of the disastrous balance management.
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S1 heroes is just a base. If you want more - you must make summons. Itās main idea of this game. I do not think what they will change it
Delete Horghall, Justice, Khagan, Thorn and Quintus if you need a smaller base for additional heros 
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Itās not about availble free slots or quantity. SGG just no need to do it.
And I think that many will not agree with the removal of these heroes from the game
Oh no. SG needs to do that now more than ever to grant a little satisfaction these times!
More easy delete Telluria
100% correct! All they are doing is making Vela worse in all aspects of the game, and everyone who has Tell, will just use a different, amazing blue hero. I am running Vela instead of Finley currently. After Vela becomes trash, I will just run Finley instead, and my team will probably be just as painful to play against as before. Leave Vela as is, but change her color, or increased damage to green instead of red. Problem solved, and Vela is still great in other aspects of the game, but not OP paired with Tell.
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Iād prefer fighting Finley on the flank rather than the wing. Not nearly as threatening.
Anyone else just want them to decide already so that we can stop having the discussion?
I have both heroes. Iām no longer running a Vellymaker raid defense. Iām incredibly tired of raiding The same teams over and over, and warring the same teams 12x per week. I support a change but theyāre not going to listen to our suggestions for how to implement it.
So, I just want them to do what theyāre going to do so that we can all move on.
(Yeah, yeahā¦ I know that I donāt need to read the thread. Iām here to see if thereās a final version confirmed.)
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I agree Iām sitting in limbo wondering what will happen to my beautiful Vela. ATM I donāt have a suitable replacement that doesnāt conflict with emblems already on my defense. Iād like to
Know so I can try and make changes
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Really? High damage, after Ursena cast First time, there are no time for your 3 yellows against Vela/GM next wave.
I would like to see a vĆdeo where how easy you use a 3/2 yellow/BLUE (Classic Heroes) to win this fight after She fire first without good start board.
Ursena is not rare imo. By the way, Rare heroes that few players have access to, do not bring variety, the name of this in my language is to have exclusivity.
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Ursena is not rare 
good joke mate you got me there 
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He is fully right on his claim. Compared to Telluria, Ursena is rare.
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Really. Itās my regular command vs Ursena with VERY high win rate - 3 yellow + 2 blue. Itās not theory.
If simple in this game there are 3 types of heroes - regular (S1), rare (S2 + S3 + events) and HoTM. Ursena is rare. For 2 years I have ALL S1 heroes, 4 rare and 14 HoTM
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Me. I donāt participate, but occasionally come to see whatās going on. I have that thought for a while nowā¦ While I appreciate very much some infos that are coming from betaā¦ In case of this and previous rebalancing of Telluria and Vela, those infos contributed to the general level of madness in the forum. One could feel it with every itteration. Maybeā¦ Just maybe, some things should be done in silence. Followed by the reasonable explanation why itās done what is done.
Oh my god, again? Are you kidding me! How annoying you are with your endless nerfs. Better to buff a bunch of useless heroes that no one uses because of their worthlessness, and then talk about balance.
They make Noor, worthless and slow, and Raphael, who gracefully dies before he can heal. Who needs slow heroes anyway?
Power up and speed up the useless, donāt disfigure the normal.
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So, I beat Telluria/Vela with a high Win rate. T/V is not bad in defense because It. But they are in any where in arenas and Wars.
Ursena is not a bad Tank, She is one of the best in the game. Telluria/Vela is slight better, not unbeatable. My point is that no one will change their tanks without a rule or turning this Heroes worst than Ursena, Kunchen, Guinevere.
Make them at the same level (I think they are), and nobody Will changeā¦
Make them worst, and SG is not Fair with players.
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Dependsā¦
Telluria is pretty anonymous in attack - if I could reallocate emblems to get similar defensive performance, whilst giving me a more useful attacking bench?
Iād be mad not to.
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No ailment no need for cleanser. (2/3)
And it only for nearby allies. (3/5)
I guess that is (2/3) Ć (3/5) = 40% close
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