[Discussion] Little John, Wu Kong and Guardian Falcon walk into a roster or Avoiding off topic flags or ThePirateKing and Little John or Answering the question "X depends on your roster" for another player

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[Discussion] Little John, Wu Kong and Guardian Falcon walk into a roster or Avoiding off topic flags or ThePirateKing and Little John or Answering the question “X depends on your roster” for another player

Little John

Unless you need Little John for reflect / eliminate purple 4* situations, both Proteus and Tarlak cover almost all of Little John’s basic functions. You could level Little John, but not much added to your roster.

Wu Kong

I am surprised you have not leveled Wu Kong ( most overpowered 4* in Empires ). If you do decide to level Wu Kong, I would off color, all 1* / 2* hero, power level Wu Kong to 4* 4.70 edit and then Ranvir to 5* 4.80. Both are have insanely powerful effects if you can let their good, and their bad, average out. Since you already have Tarlak leveled, no need to do Tarlak after Wu Kong but before Ranvir.

Guardian Falcon

Falcon is also not very high level. The single best elemental defense debuff in the game. The defense stat of a red 5* hero with decent 4* HP ( similar to Ranivr ) lets him stay alive. Target and nearby red defense debuff can effect 3 targets and an only be overwritten by a red defense debuff / buff. Boldtusk is also red, has revive, heal and nerfed from 5* Boldtusk stats to an actual 4* Boldtusk stats. Wilbur lowers enemy defense for the rest of the team, and gives team a defense boost, which is insanely powerful considering Falcon’s and Boldtusk’s defense stats.

Normally I would not off color, all 1*/ 2* hero, power level Falcon, but Falcon is a 5* Hero in disguise, like the old Boldtusk. A niche 5* Hero in disguise, but still. With but with Boldtusk, and Wilbur, a very very effective niche. Do not use against blue titans. Combine him with the heroes in your roster and Falcon will definitely improve the power of you roster.

5* 3.70

Normally I advice 2x rainbow 5* 3.70 teams before spending any 4* ascension items, but with your 3* / 4* roster you do not have to wait. Good mix of defense 5* and attack 5* only handicapped by the solo hero nature of Classic 5* Heroes and the lack of Classic 5* Healers.

You may level Little John just for his grave damage ( tile / matching damage when dead ), group mana control, farming 1.8-7 ( Tarlak and Little John, together they fight wolves ) and lack of critical 5* Heroes to level.

Notes

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Over Powered Heroes
Wu Kong 4* 1.35 ( Not leveled. Hates Gambler’s Stance? )
Proteus 4*+6 ( Unseated Wu Kong for King of Triple Bosses )
Wilbur 4* 4.70 ( Wu Kong, Proteus and Wilbur, not much damage but no one cares )

Wu Kong cascade and Grinder gang
Wu Kong 4* 1.35 ( Not leveled. Hates Gambler’s Stance? )
Rigard 4*+6 ( Melendor and Rigard, together they fight… everything. Two color, Heal 42% )
Melendor 4*+9 ( Melendor and Rigard, together they fight… everything. Two color, Heal 42% )
Grimm 4*+18 ( Very versatile, two good for Barbarian 3x red bosses )
Scarlett 4* 4.70 ( Red 4* Jackal, without Jackal’s respect due to Azlar, Elena and other 5* reds )
Boldtusk 4*+10 ( Used to be stats of a 5* hero, Fighter + Healer still awesome )
Kiril 4*+6 ( Tough blue 4* healer )

Falcon’s Red Ravagers
Falcon 4* 2.07 ( Jealous. Not leveled. New? )
Boldtusk 4*+10 ( Used to be stats of a 5* hero, Fighter + Healer still awesome )
Wilbur 4* 4.70 ( Wu Kong, Proteus and Wilbur, not much damage but no one cares )

Grave damage ( high tile/ matching damage even when dead )
Grimm 4*+18 ( Very versatile, two good for Barbarian 3x red bosses )
Jackal 4*+14 ( Jealous )
Little John 4* 1.1
Sabina 4*+15 ( Star 4* sorcerer )
Scarlett 4* 4.70 ( Red 4* Jackal, without Jackal’s respect due to Azlar, Elena and other 5* reds )
Wu Kong 4* 1.35 ( Not leveled. Hates Gambler’s Stance? )

Class quests
Caedmon 4*+6 ( Druid class quest sniper, green 4* dispeller requires non-counterattack buffs to dispel )
Chao 4* 4.70 ( Ranger class quest yellow )
Danzaburo 4* 4.70 ( Random, but unlike Rumple, Gambler’s Stance random not summon portal random )
( Grimm 4* 4.70 )
Sabina 4*+15 ( Star 4* sorcerer )
Tiburtus 4*+11 ( Ranger with Ramming Pulverizer )

Justice 5*+6
Leonidas 5* 4.60
Sartana 5* 4.80 ( 5* sniper )
Tarlak 5*+8 ( Jealous )
Thorne 5* 4.80 ( last man standing - useful for tile damage when rest of team dead )

Anzogh 5* 3.70 ( fun Z-snap for farming )
Hatter 5* 3.70
Joon 5* 1.1
Kunchen 5* 1.30
Ranvir 5* 1.39 ( Jealous )
Tarlak 5* 1.1 ( guaranteed trade worthy )

Chesire Cat 4* 3.60 ( so much fun, light weight sorcerer )
Colen 4*+6
Cyprian 4* 1.1 ( JEALOUS! stupid RNG )
Gadeirus 4* 4.70 ( ( Kashhrek or Gadeirus, do not need both )
Gobbler 4* 3.60 ( concept good, execution sketchy )
Gormek 4* 3.60 ( overshadowed by Grimm, Wilbur and Tiburtus, but still solid )
Hu Tao 4* 3.60 ( overshadowed by Wu Kong and Jackal )
Kashhrek 4* 1.1 ( Kashhrek or Gadeirus, do not need both )
Li Xiu 4* 3.51
Skittleskull 4* 2.07 ( Green sorcerer )
Sonya 4* 4.70 ( blue 4* dispeller requires non-counterattack buffs to dispel )
Triton 4*+4

Azar 3* 3.50 ( overshadowed by Rudolph, single target mana reduction could use a buff )
Balthazar ( not a team hero, but does one thing very well )
Bane 2x 3* 3.50 ( Blind )
Belith 2x 3* 3.50 ( star 3* healer, double stack when needed )
Berden 3* 3.50 ( overshadowed by Belith and Brienee, 3* Ranger )
Brienne 3* 3.50 ( Brienne and Melia, together they fight crime )
Gunnar 3* 3.50 ( same defense stat as Grimm 4* 4.70 )
Melia 3* 3.50 ( Melia and Brienne, together they fight crime )
Mnesseus ( overshadowed by Belith, not a lot of 3* buffs )
Nashgar 3* 3.50 ( and then they were on fire )
Rudolph 3* 3.50 ( 3*+1 handy since Revive works well with minion special skill )
Valen 3* 3.50 ( defense debuff )

Click for Gryphonknight's working notes on ThePirateKings' roster in alphabetical order

Anzogh 5* 3.70 ( fun Z-snap for farming )
Azar 3* 3.50 ( overshadowed by Rudolph, single target mana reduction could use a buff )
Balthazar ( not a team hero, but does one thing very well )
Bane 2x 3* 3.50 ( Blind )
Belith 2x 3* 3.50 ( star 3* healer, double stack when needed )
Berden 3* 3.50 ( overshadowed by Belith and Brienee, 3* Ranger )
Boldtusk 4*+10 ( Used to be stats of a 5* hero, Fighter + Healer still awesome )
Brienne 3* 3.50 ( Brienne and Melia, together they fight crime )
Caedmon 4*+6 ( Druid class quest sniper, green 4* dispeller requires non-counterattack buffs to dispel )
Chao 4* 4.70 ( Ranger class quest yellow )
Chesire Cat 4* 3.60 ( so much fun, light weight sorcerer )
Colen 4*+6
Cyprian 4* 1.1 ( JEALOUS! stupid RNG )
Danzaburo 4* 4.70 ( Random, but unlike Rumple, Gambler’s Stance random not summon portal random )
Falcon 4* 2.07 ( Jealous. Not leveled. New? )
Gadeirus 4* 4.70 ( ( Kashhrek or Gadeirus, do not need both )
Gobbler 4* 3.60 ( concept good, execution sketchy )
Gormek 4* 3.60 ( overshadowed by Grimm, Wilbur and Tiburtus, but still solid )
Grimm 4*+18 ( Very versatile, two good for Barbarian 3x red bosses )
( Grimm 4* 4.70 )
Gunnar 3* 3.50 ( same defense stat as Grimm 4* 4.70 )
Hatter 5* 3.70
Hu Tao 4* 3.60 ( overshadowed by Wu Kong and Jackal )
Jackal 4*+14 ( Jealous )
Joon 5* 1.1
Justice 5*+6
Kashhrek 4* 1.1 ( Kashhrek or Gadeirus, do not need both )
Kiril 4*+6 ( Tough blue 4* healer )
Kunchen 5* 1.30
Li Xiu 4* 3.51
Little John 4* 1.1
Leonidas 5* 4.60
Melendor 4*+9 ( Melendor and Rigard, together they fight… everything. Two color, Heal 42% )
Melia 3* 3.50 ( Melia and Brienne, together they fight crime )
Mnesseus ( overshadowed by Belith, not a lot of 3* buffs )
Nashgar 3* 3.50 ( and then they were on fire )
Proteus 4*+6 ( Unseated Wu Kong for King of Triple Bosses )
Ranvir 5* 1.39 ( Jealous )
Rigard 4*+6 ( Melendor and Rigard, together they fight… everything. Two color, Heal 42% )
Rudolph 3* 3.50 ( 3*+1 handy since Revive works well with minion special skill )
Sabina 4*+15 ( Star 4* sorcerer )
Sartana 5* 4.80 ( 5* sniper )
Scarlett 4* 4.70 ( Red 4* Jackal, without Jackal’s respect due to Azlar, Elena and other 5* reds )
Skittleskull 4* 2.07 ( Green sorcerer )
Sonya 4* 4.70 ( blue 4* dispeller requires non-counterattack buffs to dispel )
Tarlak 5*+8 ( Jealous )
Tarlak 5* 1.1 ( guaranteed trade worthy )
Thorne 5* 4.80 ( last man standing - useful for tile damage when rest of team dead )
Tiburtus 4*+11 ( Ranger with Ramming Pulverizer )
Valen 3* 3.50 ( defense debuff )
Triton 4*+4
Wilbur 4* 4.70 ( Wu Kong, Proteus and Wilbur, not much damage but no one cares )
Wu Kong 4* 1.35 ( Not leveled. Hates Gambler’s Stance? )

FIN

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I just love reading your work, dude. Always amazed at how you find the time to be so thorough.

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I don’t mean to nitpick, but I need “this” version of Wu Kong that you have.

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This is so amazing. I really appreciate the time and dedication you have put behind making this thorough post. It now gives me a very clear direction on what to do with my roster. I will follow through with it whenever I can. Right now, I will then focus on Falcon, and then when I get a D blade I will power level Anzogh, he is my only 5* red. That will complete my rainbow 5* for defense. After that I will chose and power level heroes you suggested as and when I can get the mats.

The only reason I did not work on Wu or Ranvir is because I got both of them last month, by that time Tarlak was already maxed. So I didn’t feel the need to max either of them because I do a decent job with the titans. My alliance only fights 8* titans, so I can easily do 200k on them in 5 hits, even without using any items. But, maybe yes, for future I will try to max Wu and Ranvir.

Thank you so much once again. You are awesome :slight_smile:

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