With our new understanding of the mana bar of the defense team it is unclear, if the amount of mana you steal with heroes like Onatel, R&N, Ithar, etc is based on the larger mana bar of the defense or if this percentage is converted to the base mana bar.
Test 1: Fast 5* Obakan of offense with +16% mana generation bonus getting mana from 6 tiles and R&N’s 50% mana steal from a charged fast 5* (Phorcys with fast tide speed)
934 x 50% / 5 = 93.4 = 93 MP for each hero or
800 x 50% / 5 = 80 MP for each hero
For my Obakan that would either mean
803 = 600 x 1.16 + 93 x 1.16 = charged
788 = 600 x 1.16 + 80 x 1.16 = not charged
Expectation: You get what you take, so it should be 93 MP for each hero and Obakan will be charged
=> Obakan is charged
=> you steal mana based on the larger mana bar of the defense, as expected
Test 2: Fast 5* Obakan of offense with +16% mana generation bonus getting mana from 6 tiles and R&N’s 50% mana steal from a charged fast 4* (Woolerton)
899 x 50% / 5 = 89.9 = 90 MP for each hero or
899 x 50% / 5 = 89.9 = 89 MP for each hero
For my Obakan that would either mean
800 = 600 x 1.16 + 90 x 1.16 = charged
799 = 600 x 1.16 + 89 x 1.16 = not charged
Expectation: Probably gets rounded up and Obakan will be charged
=> Obakan is not charged
=> The 899 x 50% / 5 = 89.9 gets rounded down
Mana stealing
I love R&N’s 50% mana steal (and the rest of her skills) and I’m currently leveling Ithar, who has a 35% mana steal.
So how much mana do Ithar and R&N steal then? And which mana generation bonus is required to charge a fast hero with 6 tiles when R&N or Ithar steal mana from a fully charged fast hero?
Ithar stealing from a 5*:
With 21% mana generation bonus a fast hero will charge with 6 tiles and Ithar stealing from a charged fast 5*.
| Mana points | 35% steal | MP for each of 5 heroes | |
|---|---|---|---|
| Charge 1 | 572 | 200 | 40 |
| Magic 1 | 642 | 224 | 44 |
| Styx 1 | 700 | 245 | 49 |
| very fast | 759 | 265 | 53 |
| fast | 934 | 326 | 65 |
| Styx 2 | 1051 | 367 | 73 |
| Charge 2 | 1144 | 400 | 80 |
| average | 1168 | 408 | 81 |
| slayer | 1284 | 449 | 89 |
| slow/styx3 | 1401 | 490 | 98 |
| Magic 2 | 1436 | 502 | 100 |
| very slow | 1576 | 551 | 110 |
| Charge 3 | 1716 | 600 | 120 |
Ithar stealing from a 4*
With 21% mana generation bonus a fast hero will charge with 6 tiles and Ithar stealing from a charged fast 4*.
| Mana points | 35% steal | MP for each of 5 heroes | |
|---|---|---|---|
| Charge 1 | 550 | 192 | 38 |
| Magic 1 | 618 | 216 | 43 |
| Styx 1 | 674 | 235 | 47 |
| very fast | 730 | 255 | 51 |
| fast | 899 | 314 | 62 |
| Styx 2 | 1011 | 353 | 70 |
| Charge 2 | 1101 | 385 | 77 |
| average | 1124 | 393 | 78 |
| slayer | 1236 | 432 | 86 |
| slow/styx3 | 1348 | 471 | 94 |
| Magic 2 | 1382 | 483 | 96 |
| very slow | 1517 | 530 | 106 |
| Charge 3 | 1652 | 578 | 115 |
Ithar stealing from a 3*:
With 22% mana generation bonus a fast hero will charge with 6 tiles and Ithar stealing from a charged fast 3*.
| Mana points | 35% steal | MP for each of 5 heroes | |
|---|---|---|---|
| Charge 1 | 529 | 185 | 37 |
| Magic 1 | 594 | 207 | 41 |
| Styx 1 | 648 | 226 | 45 |
| very fast | 702 | 245 | 49 |
| Fast / tide | 864 | 302 | 60 |
| Styx 2 | 972 | 340 | 68 |
| Charge 2 | 1059 | 370 | 74 |
| average | 1081 | 378 | 75 |
| slayer | 1189 | 416 | 83 |
| slow/styx3 | 1297 | 453 | 90 |
| Magic 2 | 1329 | 465 | 93 |
| very slow | 1459 | 510 | 102 |
| Charge 3 | 1589 | 556 | 111 |
R&N stealing from a 5*:
With 15% 16% mana generation bonus a fast hero will charge with 6 tiles and R&N stealing from a charged fast 5*.
| Mana points | 50% steal | MP for each of 5 heroes | |
|---|---|---|---|
| Charge 1 | 572 | 286 | 57 |
| Magic 1 | 642 | 321 | 64 |
| Styx 1 | 700 | 350 | 70 |
| very fast | 759 | 379 | 75 |
| fast | 934 | 467 | 93 |
| Styx 2 | 1051 | 525 | 105 |
| Charge 2 | 1144 | 572 | 114 |
| average | 1168 | 584 | 116 |
| slayer | 1284 | 642 | 128 |
| slow/styx3 | 1401 | 700 | 140 |
| Magic 2 | 1436 | 718 | 143 |
| very slow | 1576 | 788 | 157 |
| Charge 3 | 1716 | 858 | 171 |
R&N stealing from a 4*
With 16% 17% mana generation bonus a fast hero will charge with 6 tiles and R&N stealing from a charged fast 4*.
| Mana points | 50% steal | MP for each of 5 heroes | |
|---|---|---|---|
| Charge 1 | 550 | 275 | 55 |
| Magic 1 | 618 | 309 | 61 |
| Styx 1 | 674 | 337 | 67 |
| very fast | 730 | 365 | 73 |
| fast | 899 | 449 | 89 |
| Styx 2 | 1011 | 505 | 101 |
| Charge 2 | 1101 | 550 | 110 |
| average | 1124 | 562 | 112 |
| slayer | 1236 | 618 | 123 |
| slow/styx3 | 1348 | 674 | 134 |
| Magic 2 | 1382 | 691 | 138 |
| very slow | 1517 | 758 | 151 |
| Charge 3 | 1652 | 826 | 165 |
R&N stealing from a 3*:
With 16% 17% mana generation bonus a fast hero will charge with 6 tiles and R&N stealing from a charged fast 3*.
| Mana points | 50% steal | MP for each of 5 heroes | |
|---|---|---|---|
| Charge 1 | 529 | 264 | 52 |
| Magic 1 | 594 | 297 | 59 |
| Styx 1 | 648 | 324 | 64 |
| very fast | 702 | 351 | 70 |
| fast | 864 | 432 | 86 |
| Styx 2 | 972 | 486 | 97 |
| Charge 2 | 1059 | 529 | 105 |
| average | 1081 | 540 | 108 |
| slayer | 1189 | 594 | 118 |
| slow/styx3 | 1297 | 648 | 129 |
| Magic 2 | 1329 | 664 | 132 |
| very slow | 1459 | 729 | 145 |
| Charge 3 | 1589 | 794 | 158 |
edit: corrected the required mana generation bonus for R&N