Personally, I find Ninja Tower much more engaging. Tavern is way too easy, just doesnât require much planning at all, I actually make it more difficult for myself by a âpersonal ruleâ to make rainbow teams only⌠Still not a challenge, though better (in terms of challenge, not rewards) than the seasonal ladders where easy, normal and half of hard were completed on autoplay with the same set of heroes. Donât want to brag about it, just show perspective how the game looks from top 100 alliance player perspective.
There are more rewards in Ninja; before they added the chests Tavern probably provided a bit more summon âcoinsâ compared to NT. With battle items and emblems as rewards, NT beats ToL by far. The new chests will likely provide enough Ninja coins for yet another free pull which will make the amount of free Dawas doubled as compared to ToL No but seriously rewards are still crappy in both events, just play them for challenge. Itâs baffling why easy stuff like rare quests gives rarest ascension mat just like that and the really difficult stuff gives rewards so negligible, but thatâs just one of many mysteries unsolved (read: nonsenses) in this game.
Tavern was a challenge for me, as I planned it out for exactly one team per level. If I ended up failing on one of the later stages, I would have had enough epic and legendary heroes left to finish the final stage.
Guess that just shows how sad my overall roster is. I just barely have 30 level 70+ heroes for wars; go past my top 30 heroes, and now weâre digging low into 3* hero territory.
When it comes to events that require finishing several levels to complete, I need the rewards to be worth the time. Meaning, I need something of value from it - unfarmable ascension mats, emblems, free summons, etc. And no, itâs not good enough for me to get 1 free Dawa after X hours of grinding. Iâm going to need something better than that for it to be worth my time.
I just look at both of those quests as being something that most people probably just do for fun anyway, usually people who donât particularly need any more heroes or mats or anything. Personally though, I need a lot more of a lot of things, and I am not going to waste a lot of time on an event that isnât going to give me anything I need.
Weâve all been there. In a year that will likely change, while the events will remain the same difficulty. And youâll probably be looking to take on bigger challenges then, provided you wonât get tired of the game by that time. Itâs just the game started introducing challenges to players all over their âplayer tenure lifecycleâ which is really positive after the end game players were ignored for so long and beside throwing money at Monthly Challenge Events there wasnât much to do. Someone above suggested to in that case make Ninja available only at player level 50 and above. Well, while that would probably make sense, I am pretty sure we would only have an outrage of lower levels players who wanted to play it for âat least some of the rewardsâ or to âtest themselvesâ⌠same as the level requirement was criticized in the class quests of higher difficulty. So NT is more available, but should be obvious that a level 40 player finishing his second set of legendary heroes will quite likely not reach the top; otherwise there would be no challenge in it for end players.
How about just letâs pretend that reaching level 10 is âeasyâ, level 20 is ânormalâ, level 30 is âhardâ, level 40 is âvery hardâ and level 50 is âultimateâ. Thatâs really all it is, just labels are missing.
I agree,⌠I still remember and this make F2P much more struggle⌠but I hope there are a flask in the high-level chest, maybe? Or inbox in day-2/3/4?
EDIT: specially if the connection is error or game-crash! one of my alliance member have lost connection and can not go to 10th floor sadly
I always complete Tavern and I also complete the last Ninja Tower.
There is positive and negative on both.
If this game is supposed to be a work then I will pick NT because it is more rewarding.
If this game is supposed to be for fun then I will pick ToL because playing ToL is easy while playing NT is stressfull⌠It took me 1-2 hours per day in the last levels⌠and I have to be in constant vigilant to prevent getting cursedâŚ
So by this logic literally everyone else outside the top 100 alliances should suffer for your being engaged? Sounds very elitist and does not create any possibilitiy of a level playing field.
Itâs not like they take your Ninja Coins and transfer to top players, right? By playing with your roster you can get to letâs say 30 level, still gain tens of Ninja Coins and emblems⌠not all rewards it has to offer but I wouldnât call it suffering. If you suffer by playing the event because itâs hard then donât play it⌠To turn around your argument, why would top 100 alliances suffer just so you are able to beat everything with mediocre heroes?
I mean, games are there to provide challenge and what I liked about this one for a long time was that it did provide challenge in PVM battles for quite a while (seasonal ladders, S2 hard stages, hard class quests etc) but then out of sudden it stopped; once you get the right heroes, it becomes a breeze. Got so used to everything being beatable without a second thought it got dull; I donât even play the S3 stages anymore because they are just soooo boring. Now they finally started introducing some challenge again. If you donât like that, just keep farming 8-7 on autoplay if thatâs the kind of gameplay that doesnât make you suffer and appreciate the fact thereâs something in this game for everyoneâs needs.
they didnt change anything on this tower, its really disappointing
still â â â â â â â hard if you dont have a big roster
loots are just meeh, not worth all the battle item we need to complete it
only good thing is 5% for a ninja troop on troop summon
I think those who can complete 30 floor can complete ToL
For those who can complete 30 floor, it is more like taking 200 legends coins and more effort but only return 50 ninja coins and emblems (donât know how many)
I would like NT and ToL can appear together. Let NT stay every other month but keep ToL every month.
Yup, same. Was very disappointed they made them interchangeable. Especially that after the reworked summoning odds and featured heroes, Tavern is great place to summon. I think they could easily squeeze them in. But well, nobody asked us for opinion before they made the change.
They just bought the flasks last event and didnât use it until today.
Whatever floats they boards⌠oops, boats, I guess.
I was rushing it last time but it didnât bring any benefit. This month I donât think I will - perhaps out of curiosity to see what is in the new chests - unless people start posting that on the forums.
I felt it was actually a stupid thing to finish it too early because you could not effectively measure your result against the benchmark; I was in first few hundreds when I finished then dropped to like 7000 in the end and could do nothing about it anymore. Not like I care to be competetive here, itâs probably the worst cost/reward ratio event in the game for the ranking. They did not even boost the emblem amount, after it was boosted pretty much everywhere else.
As I think more about it, I like Ninja Tower more than Tavern of Legends.
ToL provides 2 summons and a slightly different gameplay mechanic. Those 210 Legends Coins are worth slightly more than 600 gems (100 coins for a summon or 300 gems for a summon).
Ninja Tower provides slightly over 100 Tower Coins which is worth about 300 gems and also a different gameplay mechanic. If I counted correctly you also get over 150 emblems from completion and a minimum of 30 more just for attempting one stage. Then we also get a unique opportunity to increase the value of ETT. ETT are essentially worth 50% more than usual (assuming you value all 4 star troops the same (which I know we donât)). With separate flags, you also get extra XP, food, iron, and recruits that we normally wouldnât get.
So from a pure rewards perspective Tavern gets you 1 more summon compared to emblems and troops. I put more value on the rewards from Ninja Tower.
We can debate a bit more about which summons portal is more valuable. Each have their benefits.
I use a max of 50 heroes in ToL, but I certainly used more during last Ninja Tower.
Not everyone will complete Ninja Tower. Iâm not sure Iâll complete it this time around. It was super stressful last time around, but it was also the most exhilarating Iâve felt playing this game.
Iâve officially changed my opinion this morning: Ninja Tower > Tavern of Legends.
No but seriously rewards are still crappy in both events, just play them for challenge. Itâs baffling why easy stuff like rare quests gives rarest ascension mat just like that and the really difficult stuff gives rewards so negligible, but thatâs just one of many mysteries unsolved (read: nonsenses) in this game.
and appreciate the fact thereâs something in this game for everyoneâs needs.