Best Purple with Guin on D

youre right because it’s very hard to hit tank and not hit flank unless you fire vertical into tank, so given that premise left or right splash tiles will make him fire first anyway… now that makes great sense.

No it was about which flank left or right, he was asking if me putting him on right so that I could use Magni on left to buff Alby was smart

Thanks for helping me pain the picture both ways, what @Rigs said is definitely right about the tile scenario, and protecting Alby, which was my first thought anyway…

Kinda saw Alby as the King of the match, Guin is the Queen, and the other 3 are the rook, knight and bishop. Proctect the King so he can win the game.

Typically you want cleansers and dispellers on the left so if they charge at the same time as others they fire first

But kage is typically going to charge ahead of everyone else except tank unless he’s in wing

At least from my experience so i would make the exception

Right or wrong? No clue. Just what i would do.

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Idk what to say. Actually it’s not important if is left or right. The people mentality here on the forum is left will fire first. Nothing could be more wrong. Will fire first only in very rare cases, when all heroes in defense will charge simultaneously due to more cascades. In most battles, between 2 fast flanks which will fire first? The one is more hit by the tiles, doesn’t matter if is left or right. I, as attacker, I don’t make combos only in the left side. As for Kage… As long the other flank is not also very fast, doesn’t matter which side is, left or right. Is likely will be the first flank to fire (unless the opponent will avoid him on purpose).

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Alby and mn on left wing

Wing is about survival

Left or right is about firing order

If you’ve ever been in a match where alberich or mother north resurrects a full mana hero, then you’ll notice the full mana hero fires upon rez. Where as if he’s on right then the resurrected heroes have to wait a turn with very little health which can cost the match even though their defense had just 2nd attempted a turn around like it was supposed to but lost out due to improper placement

Firing order: left to right for defenders

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If you were to avoid hitting a hero with tiles, would it be kage or magni? Talking off color tiles by the way on an average or worse board

Trying to prep a defense for a good board is over thinking since attacker has all the advantages rarely will they lose with a good board

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Honestly, Magni. I really don’t want his +63 def to his nearby allies :slightly_smiling_face:

Which would still be considered a win as it can get kage to go off more than once before death which can essentially wipe out 2 attackers, while it also avoids hitting alberich with stray tiles(can work against you as well since less tiles hitting him will charge him slower)

Anyways interesting discussion

I’ll try to revisit later if there’s further points added

Fun stuff

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Yeah she is, and that’s actually another great point, Magni’s buff for Alby is better than for Marjana.

Indeed. But you know, AI is dumb. Always is a big chance as Kage to waste his special on a hero with less than 50% HP :slightly_smiling_face:

Good ol’ AI lol

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This is definitely great dialogue, and helps me in confirming I made good choices as to choosing who to make my first set of 5s to level.

So I’m gonna put Magni on the left with Alby, and Kage on the right with Marj as I originally planned.

Thanks so much for all of this widsdom. :slight_smile:

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Very true… this is sample, last month war I think.

Kage is full mana, and not firing after revive.

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Wow, interesting.

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About AI… I always asked myself why devs didn’t improved it. Let’s take a very old game, a strategy game, Heroes of Might and Magic 3. AI is great in that game and always choose the best strategy in combat. I remember very hard battles (when I was a newbie) when I couldn’t win a battle, but AI could (after I let it play instead me). It is so difficult to make AI work better? But yet again, there are already too many complaints the raids and wars are unfair, even with this dumb AI :joy:

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So in that case using Magni and Kage as the example and Magni on left Kage on right, Magni would fire off with higher damage plus buff for him and Alby, at the point of revivals in a match Kage special most likely only be 250, so Magni on left actually becomes the more valuable hero in revival (plus he’s fighter anyway) if they both came back full mana. Then Kage firing after he could debuff then damage.

I feel like them being dumb give us an advantage, yet we still can’t win who are the real dummies us or them? :joy::joy::joy: j/k

No, if attacker has defense buff, Magni will not fire off with higher damage.
Kage on left is better if attacker has defense buff. So then Magni will attack the rest with no buff if he attack the same hero as Kage. Thats why some members said Kage is better on left.

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Right but then that goes back to what @Rigs was saying about not really being able to prepare D in preparation for what we don’t really know is coming because they have the advantage of setting up against us anyway…so when we talking about revival which should happen after people died and at match changing point, idk if in this specific case that justifies Kage needing to be on left flank so that he fire off first after revival, because there may or may not be a buff on the hero, and 250 no buff vs 420 with buff is close enough to both being better than 420 no buff vs 250 no buff if the enemy doesn’t have it on. That could make or break the game.

But good point about if there is a buff on the enemy.

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