What troops to use in vf war

[Wraith]

So, debate in my team about what troops to use for vf on five stars heroes. Does using a cyclops or wizard for extra mana assist in any way, or should you use mana for extra attack? None of us use crit troops but is this the war where they could assist?

[The_Seeker]

I am not a specialist, but I think the l11+ mana troops are the best way to go. I use cyclops or magic only if I don’t have another levelled mana troop

[Neotoxin]

9% mana is needed to fire in 6 tiles.
19% mana is needed to fire in 5.5.

I always assume my D is being attacked by mana troops, so that’s how I set my defense. Mana trumps everything in this game.

[Wraith]

Just to clarify I’m only asking about VF wars and all troops, mana, wiz and cyclops are fully leveled to 30.

[rho]

Mana has 6% higher atk and 3% higher def than cyclops troops, which is not insignificant (especially on the atk stat). Assuming an average 5* LB+20 hitter has around 900 atk, that’s an extra 54 atk, or almost 4 atk nodes worth. They do have +5% mana bonus and gives +25% bypass chance to offset the weaker atk and def stats.

Wizard troops represent a compromise in atk and def stats between mana and cyclops troops, while still giving that +5% mana bonus. In a vacuum*, I’d say if you a full set of lv 30 wizard troops, that’s what you should use.

*but real life doesn’t exist in a vacuum does it Where I think cyclops troops would be superior, is if you paired them with a ranger, so the pierce chance becomes 50%, or even 85% if you have an S1 ranger (Khagan + 2x CB maybe?).

[Wraith]

Thanks rho, I’m putting out wiz or cyclops troops this war.

[rho]

You’re not tanking Alfrike?!

MN-Ludwig-Alfrike-Khufu-Congalach would be so much worse IMHO

But aside from that, I’d put the cyclops troop to Congalach and the wizard to MN. That bypass is completely wasted on MN but could be useful to Congalach

[Wraith]

Thanks rho, hadn’t thought of order yet but I’ll fix before war. And yes switch the troops around for the bypass.

There we go, think I’m set now.

[rho]

I wish there was a reroll button in war

Oh wait it’s called picking another opponent, unless it’s the last one before the flip. In which case “something came up IRL” and you wait till the board is reset

[Gimliv]

Mana on offense,
if you have a healer in defense use Magic on defense. Without a healer use cyclops troops.
Explanation: On offense you should be able to fire after 6 tiles, thats lvl.11 mana or better. No need to trade attack stats for mana. On defense it gets complicated. If your heroes are hit on defense for the first time in a turn, they get half the mana, the tile carries. Subsequent hitting tiles on the same turn give less mana, so every bit of manageneration can be helpful on defense to fire the special as fast as possible.
Without a healer, magic troop‘s healing bonus is useless, so without a healer a styx or cyclops troop is slightly better.

Happy gaming

[Wraith]

Thanks Gimlev, appreciate the explanation.

[Didnt-Get-A-Massage]

Or just say Yolo and go mono yellow