I’ve nearly finished bringing Frida to 4.80.
The obvious synergy that both Richard and Thorne have with her tempts me to max them even though neither of them are top tier 5* blues.
I’ve Alasie and Aegir at 4.80 already and Richard at 3.70. Thorne is at 1.1 but I’m planning on bringing him to 3.70 and comparing him to Richard. My feeling is I’d prefer Thorne’s higher special damage over Richard’s attack debuff but how do other people find either of these combined with Frida and are either worth the scopes?
I don’t need to lvl any more Ice 4*'s as I’ve two Kirils, a Grimm, Triton, Boril and Sonya maxed.
Richard’s main target’s raw value: 2672,6
Thorne’s main target’s raw value: 3062,4
Richard have utility, utility > damage in most of the cases.
With Frida’s debuff I think that you would already have plenty of damage but you could need a bit of utility to remove attack from your foes (Frida dispels 100%, Richard only attack buffs) to help your team to survive. It’s also helpful on titans!
Neither would get in my Titan team to be honest. Kiril and Wu would round that team out. Id be using one of them specifically with Frida in wars and map levels etc. For raiding I’d stack Frida with Alasie and Aegir against a red tank.
My Richard and Thorne are just sitting, not really concerned about them at the moment when I have Grimm and Kiril, I currently also have Isarnia and I love her. I have an unleveled Triton and Misandra and they both will get my ascension materials before Richard or Thorne.
For now I have Kirill Grimm Frida and Isarnia. Besides 4 Thornes and Richard I have maxed Triton.
From my perspective It would be better to go for Thorne and replace Grimm. Frida Isarnia and Thorne is minus tree heroes in any defense team. There would be no need for Richar’s debuff. I also think about waiting for Magni, but for Frida you need mass attack hero to get more value.
Update: I eventually maxed Richard for war depth and I use him sometimes in raids. I left Thorne sitting but I did pull and max an Isarnia. I also maxed another Grimm and a Valeria. I’ve a Rumplestiltskin now at 3.70 and I’ve had terrible luck receiving scopes.
I don’t 100% regret maxing Richard but I’d take those scopes back if I could.
Hard choice. Most money spending players would laugh at such dilemma, but for players relying on TC20 heroes, it’s a really good question. I got Thorne about two weeks back, maxed him about three days later and assigned +11 nodes to him so far. I used Boril+18 as tank before Thorne came along. Now Boril’s emblems went to Elkanen who’s right wing on my defense. Since then (about 10 days) my defense success rate went up considerably (I’m usually above 2500 when I log in in the morning) and also my blue stack works much better. My problem is Thorne needs to survive waiting for Isarnia to charge to be really effective. If they both get charged, damage output is insane. Richard is most likely a better tank for his def down, but if you can work around it with an attack buffer, Thorne really inflicts a lot more pain on the enemy.
I’ve got both about the same time but I decided to max Richard due to his defence debuff.
And that was before Thorne was buffed.
Magni, Rumpelstiltkin and Miki has since overtook him to 4 80.
He hits hard even at 3 70. Plan to max him next ahead of Isarnia due to his better synergy with Richard, Rumpel, Kiril and Grimm.
Costumed Richard is pretty legit, even matched up with HOTM types. His special is now roughly equivalent to Thorne’s in terms of damage, but with the debuff thrown in, and still has super tanky defensive stats. He lacks bells and whistles like resistance and element link but the stats and firepower are absolutely there.
