Reconsidering the buffed heroes- Help with my 5* roster

Is anyone reconsidering maxing one of the recently buffed heroes that they wouldn’t have before or has anyone got one of them at max level and seen a great improvement.

I’ve got Elkanen, Elena, Justice and Kadilen at 3.70 and Ive also got Khagan and Thorne unlevelled.

I’ve 14 scopes, 12 tonics, 6 rings and 4 darts and 12 max 5*'s. I’ve 32 max 4*'s so maxing another one will not improve my roster. I need to be maxing more 5*'s.

I’ve been holding off for better 5*'s but I pulled Thorne from TC20 this morning which was my 1st from there in 64 trainings and my luck in summons is so criminally bad that I’ve gone back to cheap to play.

I’d love to be maxing a Lianna or Magni instead of Elkanen or Thorne but god knows if I’ll ever get them.

Do people think that the likes of Elkanen, Khagan and Thorne are viable now especially with Elkanen and Khagan being the strong element in their respective emblem quests?

Khagan is greatly improved in my opinion especially if you use him for offense.

Thorne will still be less desirable.

Elkanen is a tough nut on defense and so is Kadilen.

Justice and Elena is still a little old school.

Conclusion:
Khagan for attack (try flanking him Justice and Elena)
Justice for defense
Elkanen and Kadilen for war
Elena is subjective as you need to keep her alive (better use for events against bosses)

Thorne hits as hard as marjana on main target alone now, with additional two splash hit, combo with frida is deadly. What more you could ask?

I have a Richard at 3.70, who would you choose?

Even hitting has hard as Marjana, no DoT and average mana.

Thorne became less desirable as he was born to be a meat shield. I would rather they drop his special % and gave him more stats on defense and health. However, he is still viable to be used but giving away so much health for that meager offense, is not great. If they gave him a hit-3 attack rather than minor damage to target’s flanks then he would be much better.

A kill shot does not need dot, this thing you described is another hero, not Thorne. He’s not the best hero for sure but a rather decent one after this buff

I’ll take both with frida

btw, a 480% attack on 3? come on, seriously? he’s not a 7 star. even a 7 star don’t deserve that.

I guess that’s Richard’s job. Thorne is a middle ground between Lianna and Quintus, and now he is more oriented to offence than defence.

Did you last check his offensive stats?

But anyway, he ain’t a HoTM so i doubt he will get some.
Lower his % to probably 400% and hit 3 should be decent.

I have Justice at 80+2 and I have noticed that she hits harder now when raiding purples. She still isn’t that great really, but she goes OK now, and you’ve got to play with what you’ve got.

My 3/70 Elk will probably never get a tonic, but he pairs quite well with my ascended Evelyn and is fast too, so I am not complaining

I’m glad they buffed these guys but don’t think the buff has made them wonderful, just more serviceable, so it’s nice to have a payoff for months of investment in them

I also have Richard, Thorne, Hu Tao, Valeria and some of the others and when I get round to training them I hope they are worthy; at least they will be better than they might have been

I am happy with the buffs, except Khagan who I don’t have - he is actually a threat now! :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

Actually, I did the complete comparative analysis of Thorne, Lianna and Quintus. Here’s the link:

He is what he is.

Never a bad character. Could have been better. I will still upgrade him if he was my only blue 5*.
Better used for offense now rather than defense.

On defense, he strikes no fear. I would still take his hit and ride it over without flinching.
Perhaps the emblems and talent will help him.

Dude, seriouslyy, 400% on all 3, what you smoking? Ok which current top notch hero can match this?

I doubt your claim you take a hit from new Thorne like it’s a tickle or something

Hahahahahaha. You are right.

300% would have been more ideal.

Skins

Emblems made me totally change my leveling priorities especially for Ranger, Sorcerer, Wizard and Paladin.

Since 5* 4.80 heroes take so much Hero XP, I waiting to see what “skins” bring to Classic 5* heroes before leveling any of my 5* ( except Perseus and Joon ).

I am also saving tokens and Legendary training ( RT20) until Hero Academy comes out.

5* 3.60

Kadilen is one of Gryphonkit, my wife’s, favorite green 5* 4.80 hero in war attacking. Fast mana speed and special skill defense buff.

Elena, Justice, Khagan are heroes I would take to 5* 3.70 for Class quests ( so in your case just level Khagan from 5* 1.1 to 5* 3.70 )

Yes.
I have a maxed Thorne and a talented Grimm (+6 right now) and they have become my favorite raiding duo. When facing 4s you get almost 3 kills in one shot. When facing 5s you get 1 kill and two 1/2 HP enemies.

2 Likes

I agree with you, really hated the HP nerf. He is not a meat shield anymore.
But found his place in offense: when blue-stacking I bring Kiril, Grimm and Thorne. Fired in that order produces 3 frags in one shot sometimes.

2 Likes
  • Elkanen
    • 7/10 tank
    • 6/10 flank
    • 5/10 corner
    • 8/10 war’s corner last man
  • Elena
    • 7/10 tank
    • 6/10 flank
    • 1/10 corner
    • 2/10 war’s corner last man
  • Justice
    • 8/10 tank
    • 7/10 flank
    • 3/10 corner
    • 3/10 war’s corner last man
  • Kadilen
    • 6/10 tank
    • 8/10 flank
    • 7/10 corner
    • 7/10 war’s corner last man
  • Khagan
    • 6/10 tank
    • 6/10 flank
    • 1/10 corner
    • 1/10 war’s corner last man
  • Thorne
    • 7/10 tank
    • 7/10 flank
    • 5/10 corner
    • 6/10 war’s corner last man

The biggest improvements were on:

  • :1st_place_medal: Elkanen, Kadilen, Khagan
    • huge special damage bonus on a fast special and a huge damage bonus for Khagan (305% + 2minor :arrow_forward: 320% to 3) that would likely prevent him to get average speed.
  • :2nd_place_medal: Justice, Thorne
    • great special damage bonus and a better blind for Justice
  • :3rd_place_medal: Elena
    • no improvement on support’s part and a little direct damage improvement and increased riposte damage, mostly useful for PvE

Thorne is still tanky, Thorne now deals a lot of damage, Thorne is now a good hero.