Season one heroes have been obsolete for a long time which has nothing to do with season three and everything to do with power creep and money.
Really? Use em all the time and teammates do as well
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As do I, but itâs not because theyâre equals, but because Iâve invested in them.
Lol if theyâre usable, theyâre not obsolete
So which statement are you going with here?
Theyâre still useful
Or theyâre obsolete?
I mean if someone says obsolete in the context of this conversation, it means unusable right?
are you trying to say an all s3 defense team canât be beaten by a team of s1 heroes?
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I saw a team, briefly in top leader board (tournament) with the five costumed 5* with low troop levels at the low-mid 4700s TP. Costumes do help, even on the 3 and 4 stars for events and tournaments with the season 1 heros.
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Itâs not that they canât be beaten⌠this is a match 3 game where the board has a very big effect on the end result. It just becomes necessary to get better boards to win.
I personally find it more difficult to justify spending money on summoning. As a result I expect that matches that were easy will become a bit harder as others continue to summon and level these newest heroes.
Well letâs see
âItâs a match 3 game, the win/loss depends on the boardâ
. While yes, some boards are tougher than others, itâs pretty rare to find a video where at least 1 move couldnât have changed the outcome of a match
âI need better boards with s1 heroesâ
Not true either. With the right synergies, troops, and tile skill, youâll still land a good consistent % of success even with âpoor boardsâ in the mix of things
Emblems, troops, and now costumes on top of those have all kept s1 heroes relevant
Just because you canât use them, doesnât mean others canât
Boils down to tracking stats and not feelings or memories
Watching/recording as many fails as successess
Dissecting those fails and making improvements instead of excuses
Itâs really not that hardâŚ
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But I canât hate youâŚitâs a cat thing. 
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Itâs a nice hope and one Iâve had myself on many occasions
But itâs not possible.
Stupidity, misinformation, victim mentalities, just run way too rampant and would only become more common if someone didnât call em out on their crap
I do sit silently and watch to see if anyone will but i just watch others nod with agreement and the blind start following the dumbâŚthen i feel absolutely obligated to intervene
Just the way it is and has been for a long time
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So long as you donât break Forum Rules. wink
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The way I used obsolete in my argument was the last definition provided on the first line. S1 heroes are out of date, so much so, that SG decided to âbuffâ them by giving them shiny costumes with new stats.
Comparatively, the s1 heroes, aside from Joon and Lianna, are, imo, obsolete. I do not count costumes as s1 because the costumes literally make some of them completely new heroes (i.e. Rigard, Sonya, Vivica).
Dont think that changes anything though
So what youâre saying is no one in this game could use only season 1 heroes and win 70/100 diamond raids?
When did I say any of that. Iâm talking about base stats, hero utility and special skills. Where it concerns S1, 5* heroes, those are obsolete.
P.S. I used Google to help you understand my perspective, if youâre feeling attacked because I tried to make things clear, perhaps you should take another step back from the forum. Iâm not sure what anyone did to you, but I had nothing to do with it.
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Lol
Which are still succesful so you may have to make your point more clear lol
To me it just sounds like you donât like them so theyâre crap
players can still win with them, doesnât mean anything to you
a lot of newer heroes still use the same base skills, doesnât mean anything to you
not all newer heroes are higher in every stat area than old ones, doesnât mean anything to you
So exactly what is it youâre getting at other than a personal preference?
Because each of the things that still holds true, are meaningless to you in this discussion
Itâs one thing to say new heroes are slightly ahead of old ones
Itâs another to say old ones arenât usable anymore or âoutdatedâ(which pretty sure you split hairs there in a backpedaling attempt)
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Iâm glad youâre still here!
Back on topicâŚ
S1 heros are here to stay and still have a place, especially with the release of costumes. My Rigard is a superstar amongst my levelled 5* heros. Although those costumes are like henâs teeth to get 
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And I think thatâs the disconnect. What Iâm saying and what youâre hearing arenât the same thing.
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Nope
Hmmm thought about it. Tried to. But then nonsense would run rampant and Iâd just have to spend even more time in Line fixing the crap people read in this forum
Lol other than annoy me by spreading ill informed opinions as facts, playing victim, and/or complaining about every little aspect of the game they continue to play? Nothing at all
Depends what day it is and the content of the conversation(reference annoy statement above)
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Lol
Well if what youâre saying made sense, i would probably hear it more clearly
So letâs break it down 1 last time lol
Not all newer heroes trump old ones in every stat
Players are still succesful with s1 heroes
Heroes newer than season 1 still use skills the s1 heroes have
So again for the last time lol
How are they outdated?
This is season one
This is season 2
This is season three
Do they all have the same functionality? Yes. But one makes it easier to accomplish the same task as the others. That is my point. Though the first mower is usable, the second and especially the third, are far more versatile, easier to use and get the same job done more quickly.
Most of season one gets countered by Ursena, Mitsuko, Ariel and Kage. Season one had lotâs of great ideas, but they are overshadowed by season two.
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Lol
Theyâre not harder to use.
Match tiles, use special skillsâŚdoesnât get simpler than that
Sure the s2 and s3 are nice to have and fun to use, but doesnât make them anymore efficient than s1
Still the same game at the end of the day
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