I do wonder how the hidden defence boost will interact with it all.
I mean my 2C.Obakan tank could be nigh on unkillable and will require specialist heroes like Kravekrush to make sure he stays down.
Going to be interesting
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I agree. The revive is already lit right now, this is taking it to a whole new level. I had a c.Sartana revive nine straight times on me yesterday. She was the last one I had all 5, it didnāt change anything, but still.
Honestly, the biggest impact of all this is going to be felt in the 3 star and 4 star raid tournaments. The talents are already turned up to 11 in those contests, and there are a LOT of S1 heroes being used.
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Paladin is one of the best now infinite health
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As much as I agree with S1 heroes getting a much needed boost, I resent this boost also apllying to costumes. Letās be clear on this, costumes are not S1 heroes.You canāt get costumes from the training camps, costumes are paywalled. This feature will work against S1 heroes whenever theyāll face costumed versions of themselves. It also leaves the door open for these superior talents to spread to other paywalled heroes of SGās choice, just like costumes did. Remember how costumes were initially destined to be a feature destined to boost S1 heroes? When I raised my concen about costumes spreading across the game, further diminishing S1 heroes value over time, many laughed and called me allarmistā¦ and now we have costumes for S3 and event heroesā¦
https://forum.smallgiantgames.com/t/final-blow-to-tc20-heroes/141603
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You can get costumes from HA10 which is not paywall protected. Just not so frequentā¦ I got Sartana C on my very first re-training. But then 25x vanilla heroes so stopped with HA10.
And even as forced F2P player (I am in Belgium), I now have collected 26 keys since the last Masquerade event. So thatās already at least 5 (+ 2 from event itself) chances to get costumes (at ridiculous odds, i know). I got lucky and pulled Vic with both costumes last time.
Even with the second costume, the s1 heroes are still underwhelming when comparing them to e.g. the s5 heroes. Iād pick s5 anytime over a C2 s1 hero.
I also fear the moment these superior talents will be valid for more heroes (most likely s2 and older events first), as the advantage on s1 is then gone again.
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The Costume Chamber is the only portal which has been kind to me (After almost four years Iāve pulled zero five stars from seasonal, challenge, S2-5, W3K, etc but have several five star costumes), so Iām a bit biased, but Iām not sure how you do this without giving the boost to the costumes as well. For example, I run cb Isarnia regularly as she is better than c Isarnia in most circumstances, so would the cb version get the boost and not the c version? Or only those without the costume or the boost?
Anyway, we will see how strong the second costumes are, but I donāt think this will break the meta (other than my CCKhagan and his super minions which I hope will be a really good tank 
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I think that only TC20 heroes should benefit from these superior tallents. Anything else will lead to superior tallents spreading all over the game sooner or later, thus denying boost to S1 heroes. Weāve been through this story before, costumes were only for S1 heroes, they saidā¦ fooled me once, itās on them, fooled me twice, itās on meā¦
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As of today sup.talents should be active, but I donāt see any changes with my fully talented s1 heroes. Or Iām missing some other info idkā¦
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No, they should not be active.
The message we today get just said that Version 52 is now available for downloading to everyone.
Once you get āMaintenance break in 30 minutesā, then the update will be forced after that 30 minutes so they should be active only that time.
I am expecting this message to arrive on Monday.
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Would superior talents stack? For example with two Sartana-20, would you get a 100% chance to activate the talent with every purple tile?
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I think tiles always randomly choose a hero first to use the talents, so the answer would be no.
Edit: turns out this isnāt fully correct: every tile has a chance to activate the talents corresponding to heroes of their colors, instead of choosing first between heroes.
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Probably not.
Each stone is linked with a special hero. You can check that yourself using a color stack with different troops. You will see that each moved stone looks different (like the troop used) and so can only trigger the things from that specific hero (talent, crit, whatever)
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Iāve never realized this. Thanks!
The topic is somewhat different, but thereās a picture where you can see the different troops as stones.
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That makes sense. I donāt understand why it is written as a +25% chance. It is just 25%, no plus. Unless weāre adding from zero.
Because itās the easiest and shortest way to describe that it will give you a bonus.
+25% defense - everyone knows the hero will have more defense
-25% defense - everyone knows the hero will have less defense
Place on the cards is limited, so they donāt write more. Does it make sense with dodge? Not really, but still everyone understands whatās meant and it would be even more confusing using different descriptions when in the end it means something similar.
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I like the idea. Please make also a passiv for S1 heroes. I do not like two classes:druid and barbarian. Others get a nice buff, even a sorcerer but those two not so much. I must say, I adore wizard class now and also fighters, my Obakan CC would be deadly tank. I think rouge gets a huge buff and they do not needed so much. Cleric,paladin and monk are awesome.
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C-Viv will now also slow mana of enemies each other hit. With three tiles per attack ā¦ yeah.
And C-Melendor is now master dispeller.
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This is a good buff to a bunch of my heroes as they currently are. I have Joon, Richard, Lianna all fully emblemed (and with costumes), and all the 4* classic healers. Of course, I can also put emblems on other heroes that might be more useful now with this benefit.
Butā¦itās also a massive buff to one of my already favourite heroes.
Lewena!
That talent block is even better now. 
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