I agree that if you use him on defense, you should take the tradeoff of 54 more defense points vs 45 more attack points. However, I am only going to use him in rush 4* defense tourneys, and that is pretty niche. Since I’m only leveling one Franz, I didn’t chose to emphasize defense.
I used him in the challenge both in 4* and 5* stages with blue and non-red minions. He did a great job there, and on offense the extra attack is very welcome. In some cases, it could make the difference between killing a minion and leaving him with a few hp, forcing you to use specials or items. Defense is much less important in challenges if you kill everyone in 1-2 moves.
Similarly, I used him on titans and he is plenty sturdy for those. In this case, the extra attack may only add a small amount to special damage but the extra tile damage can add up.
It speaks for itself that Franz against a blue titan is beneficial over a sniper or anything.
I’m however curious if it applies to the other titans as well.
I have Tarlak as tile booster. So a green titan team would be Boldtusk Santa Falcon Khagan Tarlak. Would replacing khagan with Franz deal more damage? I’m definitely going to test it but I’m curious if there is a more precise method to conclude this.
Alright I did some testing with my Franz. A few notes:
12 star holy titan.
My Franz has only special lv3. which translates to +40% damage rather than the +50% damage he would have when maxed.
I did not use any items that can boost damage, so no banners, harpoons or anything else. Only mana potions to get my specials ready.
Any tile damage that is used was from a non-combo match. Meaning it did not come from a cascading combo which would have multiplied the damage by 1.X times (which is pretty substantial on titans).
The sample is very small as I only could get around 6 tiles per titan round that had the right conditions.
I also wanted to know the influence of an off-color tile booster as you end up with a 3-2 or 3-1-1 situation. I am not sure how the damage formula works for multiple heroes of the same element but I wanted to know for sure.
As you can see subbing in Franz for cSartana resulted in an average damage increase of 5% (keep in mind my Franz is not maxed yet so this will be higher). In a 3-2 situation vs a 4-1 situation its not clear which team did more damage. There could be potentially more damage in the 3-2 when my Franz is maxed.
Has anyone observed tile damage closely after Franz’ special? From what I have it look like because of the way that damage is calculated critical damage ends up being approximately x3 of base damage
none of those hits look like they’re critical damage. strong damage in the case of one of the screenshots, yes, but critical, no.
it makes sense to me. you have Treevil’s defense down cutting defense in half, so you essentially double damage. Franz’s debuff takes that final damage number and multiplies it by 1.5, so you’re adding 50% to a number that was basically already doubled, so it should be this way for everyone in this scenario. even the 44% defense downs like Frank or C. Vivica should get similar results.
Why do you say that? There are 2 lower figures and one (much) higher figure in both cases. In one scenario I shot 3 green tiles up (neutral) and in the other case I shot 3 purple tiles up (strong)
67, 61, 201
254, 239, 615
I had a look at some other hits I was doing and with a vertical 3 match all 3 numbers were high, but very similar
based on the screenshots, it looks like the first tile in each match killed the opposing hero, so their ailments reset to nothing. if you have any attack buffs on your side, those should still apply, but the defense down and increased damage don’t apply on those “overkill” hits.
& 2nd getting done…
