Why is her 2 lb power attack up, she needs all the defensive help she can get as a simple breeze kills her
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Yep, in this she looks like a titan specialist. Put her in mono yellow stack with another atk buffer (Wu, Edelaide, Bertulf, Ranvir etc), EDD and normal dd and the tile damage will go into 10K area.
She seems fun, but she needs to do something, to put some real pressure.
Idk, but I guess affecting 3 targets, target and all dark enemies, dealing some dmg (like 300%)ā¦ Or make her special bypasses taunts. Anything would help her.
And as long as her atk buff lasts only for 2 turns, hence it should have a higher ratio (50%). Those 2 turns must be devastating for opposing heroes.
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Agreed. The atk and def should be flipped. The red hotm RN attacks. So should this one. This one doesnt seem as good as RN. Lb2 should be dodge since being a cat burglar needs that quickness.
Lol what a useless poc. Steal buffs from -1- target, thatās like 1/5 discount if Hatter which is how many yrs old now? Steal 35% mana, so each gets like a little over 5% WOW! , and a attk buff that last only 2 turns lol. Wouldnāt lvl this even if you give me free including mats, waste of space lol.
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She might as well just go all the way with the stealing, by stealing all enemies minions as well. The attack up is kind of random
On paperā¦ I like what Iām looking at. I wouldnāt mind snagging this oneā¦ Even though Iām low on darts.
The hotm is obviously a taunt counterā¦ And hatterā¦ Would only steal against the taunt hero when active.
I think she isnāt a Ludwig counter since the mana gen is left on his neighborsā¦ But i could see being really useful on fast counter attack or black knightā¦ Phorcys or krampus.
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I have to say, i really really really like the idea of this hero, Iām just wondering if his skills are enough as they are. But hear me outā¦ This thing should be like a sneaky fast support who sets things up for the rest if the team! Adding damage to his skillset would be stupid.
Dream scenario: you have your 7 tile attack trio and this guy as an off colour support. You get 2x3 for your main hitters and another 2x3 for this guy. ~4 moves in total, perfect for todays attack meta, auto taunt off and not too many enemies fire just yet. Mana starts to be full tho, good for stealing.
Fire this guy to fill up the missing tile from the main hitters and buff their attack on top of that.
Glorious!
And if the fight doesnāt start well and the enemy gets to fire this guy can atleast steal some buffs to try and change the course of things.
I assume with current numbers my dream scenario wouldnāt work tho 
Maybe on 2024 with extra mana generation elemental link with another 2023 hotm?, but that would get too complicated with the timing and 2 turn buffs, so really hoping some changes for the numbers of this hero. Just steal more mana or give it just to near by allies, so they get bit more each? Bit more defense oriented stats?
We are close to a great one with this!
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Iāll run the numbers on what one can expectā¦ 35% / 5 might be really good.
Soā¦ Hereās what i got. To get a fast hero charged after the 7% mana chunk, you need 22% mana from the troops or emblemsā¦ Not impossibleā¦ You do need to make sure the ghetto you steal from is fully charged.
To get an average hero of after 8 tiles, youāll need a simple 15% mana troop.
Slow to fire after 9 tiles, you need 22%ā¦
Very slow @ 10, you need 24%. Do able for monk sorcerer and the leaf peopleā¦
Soā¦ Say you run a 3/2, this hotm + anne + costume 2 joonā¦ You can probably clear out a whole side with only 6 tilesā¦ Definitely makes things easier when you can ghost tiles.
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Yeah, keyword being āon paperā. Sheās not even a good taunt counter. She steals from one and shares those buffs on all allies, how many buffs does one hero realistically have? she might as well just steal it for herself at that point. Sheās gonna steal a taunt and give it to an ally that canāt tank hits. If she stole buffs for herself, then she is a taunt counter with her dodge talent and passives
However I think she has potential to work as an offensive push for your snipers. If you need to put a hero like furdinand (with his buffs up already) out of commission, you use her first, steal all the buffs from furdy, snipers gain attack up and just go hard on him
Will she be useful against Guardian Hippo?
Guardian Hippo would be among the most useful things to steal, along with taunt and the Queen Guowang thing that gives mana on enemiesā casts. Still not that great because of the randomness of the receiver.
Iāll accept a little randomnessā¦ butā¦ I feel that I would use ithar more in war than in raidsā¦ I donāt think I can sit waddlesā¦ love that duck.
Agree with others that for a non-damaging-Special support hero, the atk/def stats really would seem to need to be flipped.
Also? This hero feelsā¦ really niche for most folks. As in, even if I got one of these heroes as-is, say, even already fully leveled and emblemed for free, how often would I use her and when? I donāt exactly have a sprawling roster but having her around (much less investing the time and resources to level/emblem/possibly LB her) primarily for, say, GHippo feels like an example of opportunity cost: I could be working on and using someone else who would bring more use to my roster.
Given that the āsteal manaā portion of her Special brings up comparisons to the excellent R&N, it seems like maybe allowing Ithar to steal a bit higher % of mana might not be unwarranted.
And/or, perhaps, if she is going to pull off a truly Stupendous Break-In?
- Allow her to steal undispellable buffs.
Then sheād still be niche but at least expand that niche by allowing her to do something ordinarily very difficult to otherwise do, even to a single target.
I kinda feel like, currently, this HotM is a āeveryone has been saving EHTs for Kalevalaā hero, and opens the question as to whether F2P/C2P folks should be weighing the chances of getting this HotM against those of getting Septemberās Khufu-lite.
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I have villiers lb and emblemedā¦ And i donāt love himā¦ But i do really like him. And when he worksā¦ He works really wellā¦ But the problem with him is average speed (9 tiles)ā¦ I feel that Iām usually one turn behind versus when i want him to fireā¦ Butā¦ At very fastā¦ 6 tilesā¦ Yeahā¦ I see value there.
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An interesting point and comparison, but Villiers is also all enemies and ongoing (as long as the fiends persist).
Ithar gets you everything from one enemy right nowā¦ but itās one. Often the bigger problem with buffs is everyone having them, not one (GHippo being a notable exception).
If you are running Ithar as forward scout for one-two yellow snipers (steal-then-hit) I canā¦ kinda see that, but how popular is that going to be with the āI just donāt much like snipersā crowd, especially if someone like Kage or Fogg is an option instead?
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