šŸ§Ŗ Early Information on ROUND 5 Telluria & Vela Balance Updates [Part of The Beta Beat v30]

I actually am fine with the nerf but they should increase minion hp back to 18%.

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It is simple, any change in Vela or Telluria without any compensation, just stop spending money, we will not die if we start playing 100% free, we will see who loses the most.
I already made that decision.

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Yeah, or even increasing the mana debuff to 34% for 2 turns would be fine.

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As an aside, I wonder how long the anti-nerf crowd have been playing. My impression has been that most are relatively new players (< 1 yr) who are excited that with this one hero, they suddenly jump up from gold/platinum to diamond. If that isnā€™t an indication that something is wrong with the balance, Iā€™m not sure what is.

As for comparing to Rigard, sure, heā€™s a better healer and he cleanses, but remind me how much his special slows down the enemy mana or how he damages the enemy? Thatā€™s 0 right?

Telluria comes out as a Swiss-army hero, combining some pretty significant effects: slow mana generation, create minions, HoT, and cause damage. A Swiss-army hero who does all of that effectively at average mana is pretty much by definition OP. A hero with those collection of specials should not be expected to do all of them at an average effect, much less as a top end, i.e. heal better than dedicated healers, or slow mana at equal or better effect than other heroes that only do that. The expectation, if weā€™re talking about balance, is that a Jack-of-all-trades hero does a bit of everything, but none of them are going to be exceptional.

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as long as I spent a lot of gems to convince him to come ā€¦ if it had been v5 I wouldnā€™t have bought it ā€¦so we deceive the players?

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If its only for 2 turns they have to return the -34 mana regeneration this -24 for 2 turns its joke.

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If Hotmā€™s in time went with those descriptions, it certainly wouldnā€™t have spent enough money to get them. this type of modification after launch is a total lack of respect for those who support this game by spending money.

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@Rowan1 I have time from Covid-19.

I continue to bring up the same points because people continue to share opinions with no basis.

The most consistent argument for why telluria should be nerfed is because sheā€™s everywhere in high level play, and people are ā€œboredā€. This is not a justified reason to nerf a hero.

If they want to nerf telluria into a potato, thatā€™s totally fine, but then they need to compensate players.

If SGG nerfs a hero they are saying by their own definition that they view that hero to be overpowered.

That means they are saying the hero is better than anyone else.

Which means it should be no problem to let telluria/vela players choose anyone else in the game to replace them in their roster.

If players are against the above it means they arenā€™t looking for a fair resolution, they are looking for a resolution that hurts other teams.

Many Players specifically summoned for telluria/vela because of their power. mitigating their power, but not allowing players to choose how to replace them with a different A+ hero is false advertising bait and switch nonsense.

Leave the hero as they were released or let players choose anyone else they want.

Youā€™re nerfing telluria and need a tank, okay, feel free to choose BK, or ursena, goin, or whoever else you like.

You already have another tank in your roster you ca sub in but Finley/jabberwocke would make a positive difference in your team? Go for it.

If player want variety, and SGG is going to do whatever it takes to give it to them, then let the players who got the short end of the stick choose a hero of equivalent power to what they summoned for.

Because SGG is saying that equivalent power is the best of the best with these nerfs then let players freely choose.

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Itā€™s this enough for you? Just calculate it yourself.

Here we are! I think these could be the final versions of them.
In this way Telluria Is a very good tank but not the huge beast She Is nowadays, so someone will come back to guin, Kunchen and ursena but some other (like me) will continue using her.

Many will be disapponted, not me: if She was as in v5 i gladly have pulled her in March. But stronger players probably notā€¦

(Donā€™t forget her base statsā€¦ 900+ defence and paladinā€¦)

Velaā€¦ I canā€™t figure how worst she can be, waiting for impressions by beta testers

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Rigard is an excellent healer with the rare and valuable cleanse ability, who also provides, optionally, an attack boost. He makes an ok tank in Gold and in 4* tournaments. If he were a better tank - or better card full stop - than the ubiquitous Telly, wouldnā€™t at least one of those top teams have tumbled to this fact? I can guarantee that if you see Rigard anywhere near high Diamond itā€™s because his owner is indulging in a little strategic cup dropping.

It already seems to me that they will not stop pleasing the haters of Telluria until they make it so that she begins to heal the enemies, and Vela will kill her allies.

A doctor who heals less than a Hawkmoon 3 *.
I hope they give back tonics and telescopes.

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Feels about right to me.

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You will see the costumers how will just stop playing if she remain on v5 or v4, dont worry.

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Thank you for being a reasonable human being. :slight_smile:

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Correct none of them are going to be exceptional. She wasnā€™t the best minion creator

Telluria 18/13% Freyā€™s 20/20% and fast verses average.

Not the best HOT-rigard over 600-telluria 411

Not the best ale damage to all-130% vs too many to count.

-mana gen 34% verses Gretel who reduces it by 50%. It may only be hitting 3. But that means the -mana gen is more potent on those 3 and this is a 4* not the 5* telluria is.

Same here goes for mist.

Little John hits everyone and does a higher % of -mana gen, but heā€™s only a 4*. 5s should be better than 4s.

Telluria Vs little John they had her hit everyone but do less -mana regen because she did other things as well.

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And how many will stop if the game remains so unbalanced? Hundreds of Heroes and 91% of top 1500 with the same tankā€¦ I raid two Telluria every three raids!

They did a mistske, but now they HAVE to correct it

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Be wasnā€™t better than telluria in her original version, he is arguably just as good now. Thatā€™s the problem.

He is a 4* it shouldnā€™t even be close.

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Are you serious?
Are we having this king of conversation here?
Comparing Telly to Little John?
What theā€¦

Wait, Telly owns only 91% of all top100 tanks in the game, idk why they all aint using Little John, or maybe Gretel instead.

Iam better out of here lol

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Thatā€™s if either Gretel or Mist survives to fire. You can be pretty confident that Telluria will.

LJ hits everyone and does a higher -mana gen, but he is a squishy slow. Telluria is a tough medium.

No, it wonā€™t wash. 4* are the backbone of this game because they have all the skills covered, sometimes even better than similar 5*, but they canā€™t hack it top end because they just donā€™t have the survivability. Compared with Telluria, too, they do much less.

As for Freya, sheā€™s great with the minions andā€¦ what?

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