I guess I could see that. Not everyone has 60 LBed 5* heroes
1 Like
This rule will make offense eliminate alot more teams, so alot tighter scores in the endā¦
2 Likes
I agreeā¦ The rising fury change seems a small step in the right direction, as opposed to just crossing your fingers, and hoping all flags are used.
Itās something, as opposed to nothing I suppose. 
.
3 Likes
Iāll keep an open mind on this one and see how it works in practice. Should help me (a relative newbie) since Iām using 3* without emblems or LB towards the end of my flags. However, I donāt see how this will encourage people who use 0 flags to actually participate or prevent people from pouncing on cleanups. Those are the biggest problems in my opinion. The event will still be a giant, uncoordinated mess for the most part. Still, I enjoy it at my level because Iāve got enough heroes to compete but theyāre still weak enough to put me up against reasonable competition.
1 Like
Well this opened a can of worms on W3K ā¦
There are already threads containing all the proposed āsolutionsā that have been voiced in the forum since day one ā¦
There is also a thread on Q&A from SG / Zynga saying that itās not their priority to overhaul and repair the broken W3K ā¦
This new rule was just tested in Beta and looks to be fine ā¦
So as others have said this is a small step in the right direction to help players with this part of the game. Letās see how it pans out when itās released into the game ā¦
But for those hoping it will mean everyone will use all their 12 flags ā¦ sorry, donāt hold your breathā¦
Just my two pennies worth
3 Likes
Interesting. This, at least, resolved a thing I always noticed whenever W3K (the times Iāve played it), it always kept going āSkrimishā as though there was any other alternating conditions like with Alliance Wars.
Though thereās nowhere in this that it says it, but canāt wait for them to make a variation of the healing factor like they used to do in Alliance Wars but boosts health! Rising Fury doesnāt sound awfulā¦ yet.
Can we try again on this topic please 
none of the other stuff thats been mentioned before ā¦ In other topics 
.
Keep to the new information about it chappeech 
6 Likes
I like this, especially as in my last flag Iām struggling on top tier heroes
1 Like
I think it might actually be an interesting rule. It seemed to me OP at first, but I then realised that I am playing for over two years and I only got to my 40th 5* this week. Together with my 44 4*, I theoretically have 88 heroes that could fight in the war.
But I think basically all experienced players can agree that itās much more important what teams you manage to build, not what or how many individual heroes you have. And considering that there are so many OP defenses and the fact that my last W3K teams donāt have a lot of synergy, as they are made of scraps, my results in the last battles are not great unless they are against pretty weak teams (especially as itās almost impossible to find a clean, due to the āvulturesā lurking 
).
Hopefully this new rule will actually help make my last teams more competitive
1 Like
Itāll mean the unused flags were worth more points as the used flags all have a much better chance of scoring well (narrowing the points per flag gap between 1st flag and last flag).
If the points per flag gap narrows, the gap between top tier and middle tier players narrows too, meaning the # of flags used becomes the single determinate variable. This tilts things even more towards what was already the most important variable in determining the warband winner.
Looking forward to a way to push the zero flag players into becoming active participants and not just voyeurs.
Even with a deep bench, the last flags were rarely enjoyable. Imagine even less so for the middle tier players with some excellent heroes for just half the flags.
I wonder if this would even encourage more flag use. It has been this state for a year, people would assume the next few events are the same and overlook it
What is needed is some kind of auto-opt-out for those who donāt use their flags. And maybe think about assigning similar languages to the war bands or some kind of auto-translate feature in the chat.
2 Likes
I really have never understood this ādebateā. Requiring all flags wouldnāt change anything. Youād still have to be lucky enough to be assigned to the winning side to win. Your performance and even presence on a side doesnāt do squat to effect the outcome. It really doesnāt. It all comes down to a coin toss at the start.
What makes the Alliance wars work is that you can alter the outcome through your groupās philosophy and things like motivation. One playerās participation is usually vital to determine the outcome. You NEED everyone to participate or youāll lose. Most battles are decided by what happens behind the scenes than what happens on the boards.
This change is not about the flags not used, itās about the sniping cleans āproblemā and the huge number of fails at the end. At first look it seems to me like a surprisingly good idea, which potentially changes the dynamics of the whole event.
Iām at mid-tier-level, Iād say, and have finished the last 3 W3K 1st, 1st and 2nd place in the war by following two simple rules: 1. Do your cleans with your weak teams with your first flags, strongest teams last. 2. Donāt fail! 
With this change I guess the contest will get a lot harder, and planning more difficult and interesting.
Yeah, the āsimpleā rule of every game and everything in life 
I donāt think so. Most āunusedā flags are owned by players who donāt attack at all.
The battlefiels after war looks like: about 15 players with 12 flags, less than 10 with 1-11 flags
So it makes no difference for them if the next attack would be better, if they donāt even try the first attack.
If you want to make 3k more competitive, do something about the no-shows, who sign up then donāt take thier hits, Since the 1st 3k there is always 100+ flags left on the table, and always 5 or more with full compliment of flags. The majority of the players have done their best, and you lose by 100 points because these jokers canāt be bothered to show.
Trying banning them for 7 days if they sign up and leave flags on the table.
Until then I will give 3K a miss
Not sure if thereās another thread for this but, this buff, Rising Fury, has really helped my somewhat limited collection in this War. Very nice. 
Whether it actually makes people use their flags Iām not sure of, but it has helped me 
8 Likes
I love this optionā¦ really helpful in the long termā¦
3 Likes
Indeed, and I love that this Rising Fury buff benefits those who use more flags too
6 Likes