Costumed Vivica (Secondary Costume) - 5* Holy / Yellow from Season 1

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I always use the strategy to kill her allies or the priority/deadly allies before I kill her just for this reason. Her superior talent can turn a winning board to a lost cause. Once the major threat is handled, I kill her eventually.

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I find the superior revive a huge problem whether its a healer or attacking hero. If possible i will use my only mana controller merlin first on a weakened fighter so that when they die even if they revive their skill will not come into play

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Finaly some senseā€¦ Iā€™m surprised this aspect was mostly ignored on this thread. Superior revive should be tuned down to 25% mana, perhaps even lessā€¦

I agree with this. Far too often (before I adjusted my play to use my mana controller against superior revivers, but this ends up in sub optimal play at times) I would take out a superior reviver only for them to fire 2 or 3 times in a row on me and turn a raid I was winning comfortably into a loss.

This talent is kind of OP when in defense. For me it is neck and neck with the druids superior minion talent.

I really hope superior talents wonā€™t.find a breach to spill beyond S1ā€¦ just imagining a Khufu costume fighter with superior reviveā€¦

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I canā€™t see the issue with superior talents !! It makes the older S1 heroes relevant today doesnā€™t it? Havenā€™t we been asking for all our older unused heroes to be given some rejuvenation & I think itā€™s perfect. Because of this, Lewenas worth has increased since the implementation of them & I wished I had her but Iā€™m sure thereā€™ll be others . I like the fact I can dust off old Khagan & spruce him up with a shiny new costume. They need all the help they can get against the power of the new heroes & all their passives !!! Passives r commonplace now so any extra help an S1 can get to overcome this is a bonus to me. What I do agree with is it ONLY being to S1ā€™s. Of course that means it will find its way into event heroes somehow!!

Is she a good defender with C2? Slow mana is a concern. Not seeing her in top 100 anymore.

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Sheā€™s brilliant, donā€™t forget -39% attack for four turns and 35% chance for revive with 50% mana and dispeller.

I use her in defence in rush, left flank, Ludwig and Miki on right flank with big hitters in the wings.

Opposition do struggle with that defence :doughnut:

She is not a top contender. But she does well for me on all wars as tank. I have her handing me atleast 2 flags per kill. One of the wars i was last standing for reset and ate 5 flags.
Her revive and mana up 50% is incredible. Her attack down cripples and her over heal is just more than enough to win a lot of battles. She is also in my offense as the primary healer and debuffer as well. I use her without LB.

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Testing her now. The 39% atk down is awesome.

Do you think c2Vivica is superior over cProf Lidenbrock? The professor does more boosted health overall whilst Vivica does -39% attack. One dispels whilst the other priority cleanses. Vivica has a better class (superior revive) but the professor starts with 20% mana. I feel like they are similar but different at the same time - both being slow yellow health boosters. Any thoughts?

cc @RandaPanduh since I know you just pulled this one :slight_smile: Are you going to ascend her next?

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Iā€™d personally opt for C. Prof. Lidenbrock first, myself. She is far too unique - with the priority cleanse - and thatā€™s what gives her the edge (imo). Whereas, all of what C2. Vivica offers - which, in all three versions, amounts to a lot - are much more replaceable in other heroes. To this day, there are still very few priority cleansers.

Plus, sheā€™ll take less time, as one costume > two :crazy_face:

Not to mention, that costume seriously helps improve that heal massively, and it was already impressive due to its resetting mechanic. I donā€™t have the original even (so def jealous), but I do remember those that do, raving about that part of her SS offensively; like a constant OHoT, as ailments are everywhere!

Could be my own bias, as I donā€™t have the Professor, and have always wanted her, butā€¦ yeah, to me itā€™s no question. But then again, thatā€™s cuz I favor offense. If youā€™re looking at defense, then I think C2. Vivica is the clear winner [here]; that Fighter class, and Superior talent, make her an annoyance, no doubt.

As for my levelingā€¦

C2. Vivica is definitely gonna get maxed, but right now Iā€™ve got a horrible backlog. Waiting for some food to go on sale, so I can kick out my next setā€¦ but even then, sheā€™s stuck behind Ogima, Hachiko and possibly Laohu before she sees mats (but she will, no doubt; I think sheā€™s worth em). & I have double Rhys and even Zuri to compete in the healing departmentā€¦ but still think she offers enough to be considered.

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She is my go to healer for raids, wars, events and tourneys. She even tanks in wars as her revive to overheal eats a lot of flags. Mine is LB2. I prefer her over other healers as she has debuff and attack down which cripples enemies if they dont have a cleanser ready. She is doing pretty good for me

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Thanks for that thorough analysis, makes total sense! I just wanted to check as the polls seem to clearly favour Viviva (but potentially itā€™s just the timing of the hero releases).

Oh yes if you have Ogima, Hachiko, and Laohu I can definitely see why Viviva has to wait her turn :sweat_smile:

The game is changing. We are in the age of vampires; Alucard, Aramis, Chomper, Sekhmet, Hurricane and such.

And the boost vs reduction war is just beginning. I mean, look at the new masked goddess Aradia. Sheā€™s grasping opponents with hp reduction and a nasty dot from both sides. And even though Professor costume looks like a perfect counter by cleansing the dot and reverting the reduction she will mostly put your team in a bad position with overhealed hp bars. It is like fighting fire with fire.
Ariel C, Esme will be better for countering big reduction in offense, because they are less likely to overheal if timed right, by giving a fixed amount of boost rather than over time. Iā€™m excluding S5 healers because they have the frequent and unpredictable hp boost via passive and that can mess up things by causing unwanted overheal while fighting against reducers. Vivica C2 may not keep up a boost/reduction duell, because of the slow speed.

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:question: What do you think is secondary costumed Vivica worth Limit Breaking ?

  • Yes, twice
  • Yes, but only once
  • No
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I'd like to repost the above poll, but from the set perspective of having both the toon and secondary costumes for Vivica:

(Lego. cleric/fighter troops give similar buffs to both the toon and secondary costumes of Vivica).

For a single iteration of the hero, do you think a secondary costume of Vivica is worth Limit Breaking ?

  • Yes, twice
  • Yes, but only once
  • No
0 voters

For a duplicate iteration of the hero, do you think a secondary costume of Vivica is worth Limit Breaking ?

  • Yes, twice
  • Yes, but only once
  • No
0 voters

For a brand new player original Viv is great, for a mid-lvl 50-60 player 2c Viv is great, for a top lvl or any lvl player Toon Viv or 3xcostume Viv is very great.

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