Colen and Wu Kong Costume Use

[Muchacho]

Hey all!

Costume Chamber has been especially brutal to me in 2021 … perhaps stingy is the better word … anyway, I did manage to get Colen’s costume and Wu Kong’s costume.

In my normal roster both of these heroes did not see use so I wasn’t too excited.

In Colen’s case he was one of the last 4’s I got and already had Azlar maxed. He didn’t offer anything new to what I already had so I never tinkered that much.

Wu Kong was my titan A booster until about 1.5 +/- years ago when I managed Ranvir from ToL. He doesn’t fit my playstyle for PvE or PvP so he was reset from +20 and has sat that way since. I needed monk emblems elsewhere.

Given my general lack of summon luck in 2021 I was out of projects, got around to leveling these and am beginning to tinker. I have been pleasantly surprised with both and am wondering what others think. As a general background I am a F2P who raids in diamond and has a pretty advanced roster in terms of 4’s, 5’s, emblems, etc. due mostly to having played over 3 years rather than anything special or great I have done individually.

Colen’s shortened burn damage is great IMO, I enjoy the short pay off period for max damage. His paladin class helps him survive too. Now with a mana troop and costume bonus he can really be sped up well. These factors put him past maxed Azlar with no costume or emblems for me. He has been killing it in quests and events for me and has even snuck into raids occasionally even though he is only +1 currently. I am almost done with Magni’s 20th node and then need a fighter project. Between him and Elena I am leaning towards Colen via the costume path. Still not as big a fan of base version … maybe that in my head and they’re not that different?

Wu Kong has also been good so far, but testing has been limited as I just got him last chamber. He really fills a role though in yellow, especially vanilla yellow. Yellow has so much emphasis on mana (Leo, Chao, Li). There is, of course Joon to snipe and Viv to heal too. The AoE’s they have (Hu and Justice) are there more for blind than meaningful damage. This is especially true of Hu. After Justice’s buffs and the emblems I have put on her, her damage has been raised above “wet noodle” status to something more akin to “yes, that did happen … they were injured”. They are also both slow mana.

I have managed some special yellows like Gretel (again, mana), Guillinbursti (heal … but sort of AoE?), Danzaburo (… has a good AoE option, but is unreliable to put it kindly although I do like him), and Jackal (call him a sniper I guess).

Wu’s costume shows a lot of promise so far in just being a non-slow mana AoE hero with solid damage. This, IMO, has been lacking from the color and has a lot of potential in PvE. I am somewhat reluctant to throw him in diamond raids currently with no emblems, but perhaps situationally? He came along this ToL and I can easily see him in later war teams if conditions are right. His downside of dropping his own D is somewhat negated by my yellow healers in Viv’s D boost or Gullinbursti’s overheal. He is a strong potential candidate for emblems when I am done with Leo.

Anyways, apologies for being long winded. I was just pleasantly surprised to potentially have new (any?) life to these unused 4’s. It was unexpected given the power creep of the game in general and I am still determining if this is over optimism after getting surprising early results or if people are using these heroes in their costume form and having lots of success. Eager to hear and see some of the emblemed up versions people may have to see where the stats can go.

Good luck out there!

‘Til next time.

[Ruskin505]

Colen was my first red four star. I used him for a while and even had him with +18 emblems.

In a short cycle I got both Kingston and Marjana as my first five star of each color. I stripped colen and I’ve never gone back.

I have considered adding emblems as I have his costume leveled and I know many love him for events.

As for wu, he was my first holy four star. He used to be on every titan team. Now I only use him on holy titan team. But I do use him in almost every epic challenge event stage. He’s also key to my holy team which is generally the team I’ve used on stage 50 of ninja tower.

Since I use him in events that doesn’t leave room for colen often. Example: boldtusk- Wilbur- falcon- Scarlett - wu. This is good enough for top 5k.

I rarely use wu in raids and war. I’m much more likely to use Li. But if holy heroes I’m more likely to use: 2x joon, viv, Gullinbursti, jackal, mist, Uraeus. Chao, li, Leo, Justice all get small usage out there. I don’t love attack all when I’m attacking. I generally try to take out the biggest threat. Wu just doesn’t fit my play style as much.

I’d you gave me 500 fighter emblems for colen for free I’m not sure how often he’d see use. I’m f2p as well and here are the heroes I have to use over him:
Marjana, tyr, Santa, khagan costume, Elena, azlar, vanda, 2x boldtusk, Wilbur, falcon , scarlett, cillian.

That’s 12 reds that will get play over colen. And several slow season 1 heroes. He’s just not different enough to add value to me. Kelile and gormek similarly sit on the bench.

TLDR: use wu on score based events, never use colen.

[Shunt]

Since I got bertulf last event I’ve retired wu from titans and probably he’s bench forever as I stripped him.

On my alts with weaker benches I do use his costume for wars, the attack all is good, and I use regular wu for titans there.

Colen I haven’t used much since I lack his costume and I do have azlar with costume to about 10 emblems.

[dansing]

Colen was my EHT early 4* pulls as F2P starting days & he became damn useful as I took him to 2/50 doing early maps. When I got Gormek, I fed away the slow Colen to him thinking the DD & 4* fellow would be better, to save roster space. What a mistake…!
Much later, after P2P play collecting heroes …didn’t miss Colen till I got his costume & since then he has been a fixed hero for tournaments, events. I limit broke him & he is simply a blast finisher in tournaments & especially events - Epic, where he is the final one to charge & fire away…!

While I have levelled up WuK costume, forgotten him = haven’t used him bcoz of my good bench of holies. Will try him out just for FuN, now that this post has brought him to my attention…

[jinbatsu]

Colen is fighter, and the only epic Fighter I emblem is 1st Boldtusk, the rest are too compatetitive.
Colen still in my red events teams though: BT - Wilbur - Falcon - Scarlett - Colen
I sometimes replace Colen with CiIllian, but again Cillian is another fighter

cWukong is great AoE, but AoE need another support, there is only slow (cVivica) that can defdown all, in darks there is cTibs, so I did not use cWukong, and sadly cKailani is not like cGunnar.

[Liam_K]

LB cColen has high attack for tile damage and also 240% hit to all. Both of which are very useful in Challenge Events.

For Epic, he’s the finisher against the bosses after BT - Falcon - Wilbur/Gormek has fired.

In Legendary, he plays second fiddle to Khagan so on a good board I use him in the 2nd wave to reduce the usage of Dragon attacks and bombs

[Muchacho]

@Ruskin505

Example: boldtusk- Wilbur- falcon- Scarlett - wu. This is good enough for top 5k.

Fair point, that is a solid team.

@Ruskin505

I’m much more likely to use Li.

This is surprising to me. Even in costume it seems her best role to me was on a D team into platinum. Her damage is too low and mana cut too small. I would love to hear a strategy for her you use especially knowing how mature your roster is. I know she is better with LJ.

@Ruskin505

I don’t love attack all when I’m attacking. I generally try to take out the biggest threat. Wu just doesn’t fit my play style as much.

Everyone sets their team up different. By general rule I try healer, D drop, sniper, the other two are floater spots then for mana control, debuff, cleanse, AoE, added snipers, etc. situationally. I know @nevarmaor has said he basically brings sniper teams and surgically takes out each hero.

@Ruskin505

I’m f2p as well and here are the heroes I have to use over him:
Marjana, tyr, Santa, khagan costume, Elena, azlar, vanda, 2x boldtusk, Wilbur, falcon , scarlett, cillian.

Congrats on those pulls. The portals have been much more kind as I lack Vanda, Wilbur, Falcon and Cillian in red. Even in the yellows you mention I lack Mist and Uraeus. I won’t rant (again) about my poor luck. Happy you landed them though!

@Shunt

On my alts with weaker benches I do use his costume for wars, the attack all is good

His initial scores without emblems are solid it seems and I like multi-enemy hitters in a lot of PvE contexts. Especially for the color, as I mentioned yellow lacked this beyond paywall heroes.

@dansing

I limit broke him & he is simply a blast finisher in tournaments & especially events

Cool, I love to see a pic with those stats!

@dansing

Will try him out just for FuN, now that this post has brought him to my attention…

If the games not fun you shouldn’t play it, so right on. I promise nothing though of results Let us know how it goes.

@jinbatsu

cWukong is great AoE, but AoE need another support, there is only slow (cVivica) that can defdown all

Fair point. In PvE I don’t mono that much so I can certainly add in an off color D dropper. D drop is definitely essential though to enhance performance. That seems a lot of attack heroes though.

@jinbatsu

the rest are too compatetitive.

I get it. I have that problem in several classes, but not fighter for whatever reason. . Lord knows I can’t get enough Druid and Ranger emblems especially.

Thanks for sharing @Liam_K that looks awesome. Are his talents all attack path or mixed?

[Liam_K]

@Muchacho

Thanks for sharing @Liam_K that looks awesome. Are his talents all attack path or mixed?

It’s ATK - DEF - HP

[dansing]

Pal, I never said : THE GAME IS NOT FUN !
Unless,
you read elsewhere / jumbled up my name !

[Ruskin505]

@Muchacho

@Ruskin505

I’m much more likely to use Li.

This is surprising to me. Even in costume it seems her best role to me was on a D team into platinum. Her damage is too low and mana cut too small. I would love to hear a strategy for her you use especially knowing how mature your roster is. I know she is better with LJ.

I used to her as a holy hero to attack dark tanks. She still comes out from time to time. But she’s never the star of the team. She’s always playing a support role.
I do a lot of 3-1-1 and 2-1-1-1 war attacks. She can be solid as a one in the off color. She’s not there to do anything other than buy me time. Specifically one team Ive used is mother north - buddy - Santa and two other heroes. I often throw chao/li/Leo in that team. All they do is buy me enough time to defense down and minion the other team to death. If I had a second mist I’d rather use her here (I tend to pair mist with jackal and joon).

She’s not too great. I’d certainly rather use many others. But I feel the same about wu.

[Muchacho]

O, I know you didn’t! I was speaking in generalities. I try weird stuff all the time as it’s fun for me. Had Danzaburo and Ameonna emblemed heavily, etc.

Keep on keepin’ on.

[nevarmaor]

@Muchacho

I know @nevarmaor has said he basically brings sniper teams and surgically takes out each hero.

I am learning how to diversify

Although my strongest heroes are still my snipers, and I still tend to surgically strike when raiding.

[dansing]

@nevarmaor

Although my strongest heroes are still my snipers, and I still tend to surgically strike when raiding.

That’s cool… reminds me about my style changing as new heroes arrived…

I used to also use snipers earlier but have not moved to combo, wasn’t easy, but troops level-ups helped build different teams & styles.

I also left few sniper a lone which I am not feeling up… Started getting NeMo ready for next set of rings… !