Wow! That is quite the ācoincidenceā - if you have cracked the riddle of tourney matchmaking, you deserve a pin or a plaque ! Lol nah but seriously, no joking around here- this is some brilliant stuff. Iām going to try to get another ally memberās stats and starting score. If heās around, Iāll share the numbers with you guys and we can see how it lines up! Good stuff!!!
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3414 and 563 is an ally memberās
Vs @Wondermoose 3875 and 610
So differences of 461 TP
And 47 points
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Vs mine @3589 /581 is 175 and 18
Yeah, there might be some variance within this (I rounded after all), but 1 point is pretty close. We might be onto something here. Thank you for the help.
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Absolutely!
Itās good to know how things work
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Yeah but the implications of how this works (starting point and scoring ladder combined) if this is how it works (and I think it points in a direction for sure) may not be a positive. But Iāll leave that alone for now until thereās a little more data.
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Not sure if I understand exactly what youāre collecting, but I think I got the details I need:
My highest-power 4* heroes are this (NOT including Purple):
736 Hansel 4-70+18
735 G.Jackal 4-70+18
733 Caedmon 4-70+18
733 Colen 4-70+18
732 Grimm 4-70+18
Team Power 3669 without troops
Team Power 3870 if I assign the highest-power 3* troops to each of those
Tourney Defense I set:
3501 power without troops
3696 power with troops (as set in the Tourney screen)
MY ATTACKS - in this order:
609 vs 3648 defense
616 vs 3567 defense
617 vs 3771 defense
618 vs 3798 defense
614 vs 3782 defense
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Day 1 offense on both profiles were 3-2. I think.i am just gonna do one life on this tourney because I am trying to get less than 150 gems for Atlantis I already have enough coins for one summon but I like to have enough gems and enough coins for at least 2 summons.
There are two separate data collection experiments kinda running together, so I guess I should attempt to clean it up some (even if you get it, I can see others being confused; weāre also more certain about some ideas than others).
This started as trying to understand how the scoring worked match to match and day to day in the tournament. It looks like it follows a pattern based on the day and assuming that there isnāt a scoring wall (a wall where it isnāt possible to exceed a certain point total for a win when attacking; in your case, it might be 618; I wish I had won more in a row to see if my results would have been the same). Day 1 it should be +7 for a win and -13 for a loss from the just finished battle. Day 2 it should be +5 for a win and -9 for a loss if the data from 16 and 15 holds (with a possibility for minor variance and again assuming that there isnāt a wall). So thatās the part about looking at the attack values and what happens when you win/lose.
The second part, the part regarding best 5 team power for the tournament, is an attempt to try to figure out where people start in the tournament. You and I are roughly the same TP with troops (3875/3870). You started at 609 while I started at 610. Titan XP is at 3589 and started at 581 first attempt.
The initial data comparison of TP and the difference in starting position in the tourney between our teams is around 280/290 points and -28/-29, or around 1 point in starting attack per every 10 points.
The100thmonkey is 3643 and started at 583 (a bigger break in the formula so far; it looks like you should have started around 586/587). But both Titan and Monkey advanced by +7 for a win still.
My thought is that, if these are static patterns (roughly) for how the points work, there are some interesting implications for placement and oneās ability to place somewhere in a given tourney (smaller implications in 3* or less and much larger ones in a 5* tourney). But I still want to see some more data before making a hard conclusion.
In any case, thank you for the contribution and the help.
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Basically trying to see the correlation between team power and starting attack scores. Also, looking at the trends of the increase in attack points if you win and the decrease if you lose.
Your TP. @ 3870 with the proper troops is relatively on the high side which gave the the higher starting attack score of 609.
If you compared your team and mine @ 3589 and a starting attack score of 581, you can see that youād have a better overall score than me if we both went 5-0 today. Your 1st must have been a win as your 2nd attack score went up 7 points to 616. It gets interesting at 3 4 and 5 for you imo as your increase was only 1 , 1 , and a decrease of 4. What was your record on attack? ( 4-1?) I wonder because your 5th attack went down rather than up.
EDIT: - SRY I wrote this before reading @Wondermoose post so basically, itās what he said lol.
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Not sure if it effects the calc at all but my max tp was not my 5 highest rated heroes due to having a 2nd levelled yellow 3* troop but not a red.
Using my 5 highest rated heroes with the best troops they can use gives 3639. Possibly it uses the 5 best heroes and the 5 best troops even if those 2 donāt go together?
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They were 5-0. Weāve seen this kind of behavior with people winning and bouncing down before. My working theory, but itās only a theory, is that there may be an artificial limit to how many points you can gain before you kick back down for a bit. Whether that is a thing or whether itās something else causing it, we donāt really know, but itās been observed in the past two tourneys and may be a way to try to keep some who start ahead from getting too far in front too soon.
3870 is pretty high for this tourney. I think a maxxed 4* emblem team with maxxed 3* troops is probably around a 4000 squad, so there probably arenāt many best 5 teams higher than 3900, which could also be creating randomness.
In any case, why this happens is unknown, so we canāt for sure say a wall exists but we canāt say it doesnāt either.
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Possible. If a hero is eligible for the tourney, it counts them whether one plays them or not. For me, my best five heroes and troops all match color for color, but it would be interesting if that was how it works. Weād need to see others in that situation, though.
Iām not sure how to calculate troop score individually from the TP to see it, though. If that could be shown, it might be possible to see if thatās how it works.
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So on my theory that it is best 5 heroes and best 5 troops even if they canāt go together my options are
Heroes:
BT +18 743
Grimm +18 732
Skit +6 674
Wilbur +3 664
Buddy 649
Best yellow wu (Ć3 no emblems) 644
3* Troops:
Green 14, 1, 1
Red 11, 1, 1
Yellow 10, 8, 1
Blue 9, 1, 1
Which gives me a big spread as both yellow troops get in my top 5
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Day1 Attack 5-0 Defense 2-1 (A)
563 points up to 591 points on last attack
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Iād have to say, based on your data collections, and based on what Iāve seen today, that there is a wall. Itās just my opinion but evidence points to that trend. And as far as the reasons, the one you just mentioned about not letting players who start ahead get too far in front makes sense to me. It doesnāt seem especially fair per say but I can understand the justification for a wall like that. I donāt think thereās a āperfectā system to satisfy both stronger players and newer/weaker players. For me, as long as its āfree to participateā Iām happy!
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I was 5-0 today; I also found it odd by my 4th was 618 and 5th was 614. The enemyās team power dipped a little bit on that last attack, too.
EDIT: Iāll do my best to go 5-0 again tomorrow, to collect more data. 
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So just to be annoying I will reply again with my calcā¦
A level 1 3* troop adds 31 points to tp and each level adds another 1 (my data points are level 8 is 38, 9 is 39, 10 is 40, 11 is 41 and 14 is 44)
So my theoretical max tp is 3655 even though I canāt field that team together
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Just got train wrecked by this. Didnāt know what to bring, so I had a pretty ineffective mix of blue/red/green with green being just a single Gadeirus, and guess what my board was flooded with? 
Also Tony Danza went bottle-sword-sword with WuKong active. It wasnāt pretty.
4-1 though with an A defense first day, so I suppose I shouldnāt complain.
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