Guys, This is my very first post.
I need guidance on to whom shall I give Poison Darts to ascend to the final tier.
Currently, Leonidas (which is my very first 5* hero) is at 3/70 and Justice is 2/55.
I do not have any other Holy 5* atm.
Are you in a rush to ascend a Holy hero?
If so then Leonidasā¦
If not, well Iām a fan of patience in using ascension mats. If Iām not 1000% āmust ascendā I wait until I have 2 sets of ascension mats before making a decision.
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@voidstrike, I m not in rush as such. But looking for suggestion as I only have these 2 Holy 5*.
I m not pulling much from Summon gate anyways nor I had better luck.
Thanks for suggestion 
If youāre running TC 20, despite low odds, there is still a chance of getting a Holy hero, specifically Joon & Vivica, both of which would be much more preferable to immediately use darts on.
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Yeah! I have 1 TC20 and didnt get 5* apart from Elena who is at 3/64 atm.
Leo was my first holy 5*. That was 2.5 years ago and I have many other holy 5*s now. Iāve never regretted ascending him even though he gets a bad rap here on the forums.
Heās not the flashiest, but heās sturdy. Iāve also found him useful in shutting down healers (Think healing wars and multi-healer teams used to be a thing in the lower raid arenas). Although heās long off my main defense team, I still find a spot for him on one of my war teams.
Iām sure others will argue otherwise, but I wouldnāt have a problem leveling him all over again. Iām also a fan with working with what you have instead of waiting for something you may never get. 
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Yeah I understand that there is this perspective too.
I guess for me I just never want to be in a situation if my luck ever changes and I draw a āmust max heroā (whatever that means) where I donāt have the ascension mats to level them.
Happy cake day @LadySuzanne
I agree! Leo was my 2nd 5* yellow hero after Joon. I leveled him as well and have not regretted. He is not on my defense team, but I use him in raids, titans, events and tournaments.
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@voidstrike Thank-you! I didnāt even see that next to my name. Hahaha!
Ok, back on topicā¦ good point about mats, though. It may be a good idea to wait until you have 12 darts - or close to it - and then level him if you havenāt got that āmust levelā hero. You may not progress as fast, but at least you wonāt be frustrated if you do snag that amazing hero 
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Yeah, seeing feedback; I feel that I should wait for another holy hero or another set of Darts.
Hope to complete either one soon 
And what another yellow hero you want to wait for? If tc20 only than Joon and Vivica comes to mind onlyā¦
What are the chances???
Yes! That low!
So do Leonidas! 
Just to add something. Leonidas was my first 5* holy, and I waited precisely because I kept hearing how bad he was. Maybe after 3-4 months at 3/70, I figured, I might as well as I was collecting a number of darts, so I could āaffordā to use 6. However, it was probably close to a year after that that Vivica and Joon came out of the TC20, so waiting can result in lost opportunities, i.e. maybe a loss when a 4/80 Leonidas may have won it.
Just for the sake of completeness, I think I should point out that no one is saying Justice because she is a defense team tank and thatās all. If you really need that, maybe you consider her, especially if your paladins arenāt great and you can emblem her. But a one-trick pony isnāt a great choice for your first set of darts, generally.
Iām kind of torn on Leonidas myself. (Appreciate the observations, @LadySuzanne and @JAWS1.) I have him at 3^70, and my monks are pretty bad. I could probably see myself resetting Li Xiu +20 and Wu Kong + 9 to emblem Leo. But my other option is Norns, who could be interesting and could also be in line for a pile of sorcerer emblems. And I still donāt have Joon, so TC 20 or possibly Hero Academy could give him to me any time. I donāt have the darts right now, but after PoV and Sand Empire, I should be at least halfway there.
So, you have to weigh the odds of getting Vivica (who I agree is great) or Joon against the opportunity cost of not maxing Leo now. Good luck.
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What are you needing the hero for? As mentioned by @Noble_Weasel Justice gets no justice because she works best as a tank. BUT ā¦ if you need a tank she is pretty dang good for TC20. I use her as tank and I sit relatively comfortably in diamond with her. Occasionally I drop below 2400 but not much. I even sometimes use her on offense.
If you need a tank, and you are not a spender, seriously consider maxing her. Seriously!
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Norns is good for very niche case uses. I ran into my 1st raid defense team with Norns on it in the flank position. She was maxed leveled and +13 on the talent grid. She was a beast to defeat, but did not have the proper support around her to really be affective. I beat her easily with my 3-2 purple team. With all that said, Leo will probably be more useful and who know if will ever get a better Yellow 5* hero out of your TC20 at any time soon! Like many have said before me, you have to play with what you have not what you might get down the road! 
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I personally donāt agree with waiting for Vivica and Joon because the odds of getting specifically one of those two heroes in TC20 is like 1 in 200 per pull, so you might be waiting a longggggg time. And by the time you do, and also train them to 3/70, thereās a pretty good chance you have 6 more darts anyway.
Thereās a few TC20 heroes I wouldnāt ascend just because theyāre essentially worse than 4 stars, but Leo isnāt one of them. Aside from mana speed Leo is a clear upgrade from Chao who is probably your only other option at Yellow sniper.
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I have both Justice and Leo maxed
Justice hardly ever gets off the bench these days, as I have both Guin and a Telly for tank work, and Justice isnāt especially useful outside that role. But she was my first ascended five and she did well at tank before I got Guin. Yes if you need a tank
Agree with most of the comments on Leo. I still use him when colour stacking (I have Joon now who is a lot better tbh, but Leo is still serviceable)
Of the two, in terms of overall utility, Iād put Leo up.
I look at it this way - this game has a twisted sense of humour, so the day you ascend Leo is the day TC20 will cough up Joon or Viv. On the upside, if that happens at least you will have them, and if it doesnāt, youāve got Leo who is a lot better than nothing! Really, itās win win!
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Not to mention, if you decide to wait then the likeliest outcome for your next TC20 yellow 5* will be ā Justice or Leo 
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Yupā¦ I hung onto Elkanen for the longest time at 3/70 (my only other 5* green at the time was Kadilen). The next TC20 draw after I ascended him, I pulled Lianna.
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I maxed out Leo and have since replaced him in my regular usage. He looks good on paper, but never seems to hit that hard. I may never get to leveling Justice, but if I did, it would be primarily for the rush raid tournament. I think it would be hilarious to have a line up of Isarnia, Azlar, Horgall, Justice and Quintus as an all slow, all AOE S1 defense lineup.