Version 29 Costume Experience Change

[Gryphonknight]

WTFrak?!

@Gryphonknight

I feel this patch is inelegant, clumsy, and confusing

My first thought was GREEDY GORRAM MATRICIDE NECRO FRAKKING DEVS

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apparently I was attached to the elegance of the original formula.

Hmm

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Skill roll % problem

My calm thought later, I bet this is a response to skill rolls and tier 1 customer support ( see notes ).

If so, I would have just increased the +costume skill roll % by 5x if same color ( instead of 2x for base heroes. Gah. Costumes are so confusing) and by 2.5x if off color.

For extra costume patterns used to level a hero’s costume outfit = +62.5% or +75% just to make it less confusing for non math people.

If I am correct, it is a problem of the game being 3+ years old, and many Devs decisions about +skill rolls finally leading to this outcome like just 5*+20 tanks are a cumulation of years of decisions ( see notes )

Notes

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Costume XP

@Gryphonknight

( ( 1.5 / 1.2 ) * 2.0 )= 2.5x faster same color costume outfit versus base hero

Trainer Hero +skill roll

([Suggestion] Upgrade Trainer Hero (+skill roll))

Max tier, max level

@Gryphonknight

MY PERSONAL OPINION
I don’t know why special skills don’t automatically become 8/8 when you max out a hero.

10+ at a time

@Gryphonknight

Unlikely to happen due to food costs. Especially with 5* heroes.

We were lucky Classes made the Devs change skill roll for stuck heroes.

4/8 3* 1.1 heroes

Skill rolls are designed for 4* Heroes ( see notes ), but are hindered by access to ascension materials ( this is by design ) and availability ( looking at you Guardian Jackal and Wu Kong ).

([Stub, Suggestion] 3* Heroes start at special skill 4/8)

Makes summons random 1/8 to 8/8

@Gryphonknight

Note: special skill is also random 1-8. So you can summon a 1/8 5* 4.40 Joon and a Guardian Owl 8/8 5* 1.1 which just makes me giggle uncontrollably ( though probably more for lack of sleep last night).

Oldest bug reports

The Devs do love merciless RNG

(Search results for 'special skill not 8/8 #bugs-issues ' - Empires & Puzzles Community Forum)

5*+20 Tanks

@Gryphonknight

The question is, will SGG address the underlying issues.

I would be very surprised if the above issues killed Empires, the pandemic had been good for mobile games. And 5*+20 heroes is definitely an Elder user issue.

But the issues above have been seen for years.

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We miss you @Garanwyn

Likely attack stat soft cap versus non-linear defense for 5*+20 heroes.

@Garanwyn

You need to be a bit careful with statements like that. There’s very strong evidence that the stacking effect linearizes at high stacks like 4-1 or 5-0. But the same is not true for

FIN