Iām all for a radical refit of the lab. But a simple āquick fixā would simply be to significantly lower the food costs. It would then at least make some sense to use it.
Iām looking at the non gem levels, anything above that has been discussed to death already lol.
I still havenāt converted yetā¦ hahā¦ is there any decent reason to do so? I mean, I surely will once all of my other buildings are at where I want them to be and Iām looking for a resource sink.
Thatās the only reason Iāve come up with so far.
Lab. What is it good for. Not only is Alchemy lab poor at getting stuff you want, it is also poor at getting rid of stuff you do not need ( see notes ).
I recommend Harpoons, the best addition to Empires since 4* ascension items were added to rare quests.
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Yes! I agree with the last portion of the last link you providedā¦ let us trade off food for ironā¦ even if we tradeā¦ 100k food for 40k ironā¦
And vice versa of course in the event that thatās what youād want/need to do.
If they allowed food<->iron it would be at an even worse ratio. 10:1 or 100:1. And thatās fine. Although if itās close to the worse end then it has to be pretty much instant (which could have the added bonus of it not being an extra storage if it just flows right into normal storage).
I could build AL, but refuse to in the current incarnation.
I didnāt really read this comment. I still starred it because I love the way you format everything you write.
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Looks like we are Tabard twins 
AL9 results:
Finally at the point where i can turn 2* ascension items into 3*. So far, ive only gotten boots and the red training manual. Is it possible to get other unfarmable things like hidden blades, capes, shields, orbs, and trap tools? Is it like the tc20 where its possible but extremely unlikely? If its not possible, then this has been a huge waste of time. Keeping my hopes uo that the building works as advertised!
@tleggett11 I moved your question to a thread that can help answer it. 
I believe youāre asking about Level 6, which Iāve noted this about:
Thereās actually no Level of Alchemy Lab that produces 3* unfarmable Ascension Materials from 2* farmable ones.
Instead, Level 9 uses 3* farmable Ascension Materials, like that Battle Manual, and produces either 3* unfarmable mats (95% chance), or 4* unfarmable mats (5% chance).
Please note that Level 9 also requires 150 gems and 7 days per Transmutation.
Thanks for the info! I wonāt waste anymore time on level 6. Studying level 9 now. How many 3* ascension items are required to get an unfarmable 3*/4* item?
Exactly 12. Production lasts a week so itās unlikely to run out of material - you can farm more than 12 during a week of play, and I bet you donāt ascend 5 heroes daily.
We will get a bonus after transmuting at lvl 10 ?
EX: Damascus + 250 gems + 256k food = 600 alkashards 1 ring and bonus ā¦letās say a tonic?
I saw some old pics from betaā¦itās still available the bonus?
The bonus item possibly was removed and replaced by the shards.
LV 20 training camp I get 1 5* a month, got 2 LV 20 running. Have more 5* than I can upgrade. Got 5 upgraded 1 upgrading and 6 without items
@zephyr1 I copied your data from your leading post into Google Sheets and formated it. I even extended the last 5 columns for some calculation concerning the 10.000 alkashards.
Feel free to add the link to the starting post.
Added, thanks! 
I remain hopeful that weāll see changes to Alchemy Lab this year.
Is there currenly a way to change the combination results of 10.000 shards for combination?
I have to the choice between two Emblems which I do not like to get. And the efforts to reach 10.000 are to high to run through a second time.
Not currently, no.
But Alchemy Lab may have changes at some point, so one option is to just hold onto the Alkashards, and see if there are new options in the future.
I really get sick of it.
So many money and not what I need gets out.
I should have known it better after betaā¦
