New Riddles of Wonderland Hero is released: Tweedles
This thread is for discussing strategy related to Tweedles, as well as your thoughts on Tweedles.
Tweedles
Rarity
Element
Class
Mana Speed
Legendary
Dark/Purple
Monk
S Slow
Level
Attack
Defense
Health
4/80
962
947
1565
4/85
1036
1021
1687
4/90
1186
1168
1930
Origin
Family
Challenge Festival
Wonderland
Image
Aether Power
Description
Boosted Regen
At the start of each battle, this Hero regenerates 300 boosted health over 6 turns. Boosted health can exceed max HP. In battles with multiple waves, the effect is refreshed at the beginning of each wave.
Special Skill: Dum and Dee
Deals 600% damage to a random enemy.
The target gets -50% defense for 5 turns.
Deals 600% damage to a random enemy.
The target gets -50% attack for 5 turns.
The caster gets 30% mana if both attacks hit the same target.
All-in-one still under construction. Card image to be added when available.
This thread is for thoughts and discussion on Tweedles.
Based on preferences Forum members have expressed, please try to stick mainly to Tweedles and not wander off topic too much to other heroes.
Some Popular Questions for Discussion
Is Tweedles worth summoning for?
Would you use Tweedles on Defense? Offense? War? Quests/Events? Titans?
Which heroes on your Roster best pair with Tweedles ?
What heroes would you take when facing Tweedles as an opponent?
Would you give Tweedles Monk Emblems? Which Talent Grid path will you choose?
What do you think of special?
What do you think of Tweedles’s character design?
If you Summoned Tweedles and would like to post your results, please include some thoughts on why you Summoned Tweedles, and whether/how you plan to make use of them.*
*NOTE: Summon Results posted without any commentary/feedback at all should be flagged as Off Topic and removed, based on preferences expressed by the Forum community. Please include some comments about what you think of Tweedles when posting Summon Results. In addition to opinions about Tweedles, you are also encouraged to include how many Summons it took before receiving Tweedles (or how many Summons you’ve done without receiving Tweedles), so other players are presented with realistic experiences of the rarity of Legendary Event Hero.
Avoiding Overspending & Heartache
More Insights & Reading
I highly recommend reading these three threads for more information and context on summoning odds:
If you’ve read them a million times before, you may consider reading them again before deciding on your budget for summoning. A little time spent deciding on how much money you want to risk on summoning goes a long way to avoiding disappointment, frustration, and regret later.
Wondering About Your Personal Situation?
Feel free to discuss your team and roster here, and ask for advice from other Forum members.
If you’d like more extensive advice on sorting out your particular roster, I recommend creating a new thread in Gameplay Help & Tactics, and posting screenshots of your hero roster, along with your questions.
Jabberwock (C) is one of my top characters, and I’d love to bring the Tweedles alongside it against Titans.
But, I’ll admit I’m a bit disappointed. The Tweedles don’t hit nearly as hard as Congalach, or even Nine-Headed Beast. The -50% defense and mana bump mostly balance things out, but I still feel they end up being more situational than those other slow randos. I happily bring Congalach into PvP, and would do the same with 9HB if I had him. But I suspect if I got the Tweedles, they’d be almost exclusively used against Titans.
I’m likely spend all of my current pulls running after them, but I’m not sure I’ll push further than that.
I feel like this hero is kind of similar in a way to bobo, but bobo is still better with his massive debuff and it’s consistent with a proper AOE hit
This hero however, for how he is hitting, should have been fast speed. Really, because not only is it two sniper hits, it’s random hits. You can’t even target stuff with this guy unless the enemy sets up a taunt
Fast with two hits is to compensate his inability to target enemies
Reminds me a lot of a stronger Jana but at slow with some different skills and passives. That being said, i wouldn’t mind them at all, can always use heroes for rush and events, etc…
Pulled them on a saved-up ten-pull. Just wish they weren’t dark, as I have a glut without enough mats to do anything about it… Still going to finish Deadboot before thinking about them.
Let’s consider a equal scenario where 9HB and Tweedles both have 1,200 attack (including bonuses, troops etc.), and they attack an opponent with 1000 defense with all their attacks. Then the calculation would be
Tweedles → Damage per hit = (600%*1,200/1,000)^1,35 = 1,437 → Total damage = 2 * 1,437 = 2,874
9HB → Damage per hit = (150%*1,200/1,000)^1,35 = 221 → Total damage = 9 * 221 = 1,990
So in fact Tweedles does significantly more damage (44%) than 9HB.
This is due to the damage being an exponential function in the difference between attack and defense: