ℹ Thoth-Amun – 5* Dark/Purple - Nov 2017 HotM

Thoth-Amun

Rarity Element Class Mana Speed Mana CB
:star::star::star::star::star:
Legendary
:new_moon:
Dark/Purple
image
Sorcerer
F
Fast
5%
Level Attack Defense Health

4/80
+1 Costume
:crossed_swords:
731
884
:shield:
694
839
:heart:
1361
1878
4/85
+1 Costume
788
953
748
905
1467
2024
4/90
+1 Costume
901
1090
855
1034
1678
2315
Origin Family
Hero of the Month Legends 2017
Image Aether Power Description
revive Revive If this Hero is defeated during the first 4 turns of a battle, they are resurrected in the beginning of their next turn with 1% health. All status effects and stacks are removed when the Hero dies.
In battles with multiple waves, the effect is refreshed at the beginning of each wave.
:hourglass: Ability (if costume is available): Dispel on Special Skill
When this character casts their Special Skill, they dispel the newest status effect buff from all enemies.
:dizzy: Special Skill: Skeletal Summon
  • Deals 280% damage to the target and nearby enemies.
  • Summons an Undead Minion for the Caster and Nearby allies with 25% HP and 15% attack inherited from the caster.
  • Elemental Link gives +10% mana generation for all Dark allies for 4 turns. This effect can’t be dispelled.
All-In-One Reference, courtesy of @Lumi
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:hugs: Family Bonus

Heroes become stronger when teamed with other unique Heroes in the same Family.

Legends 2017 Family
Bonus for 1 / 2 / 3 Heroes:

  • +5% / +10% / +15% mana generation.

Bonus for 2+ heroes:

  • Elemental Link affects all allies.

:balance_scale: Balance Changes

Sep 2022


:boom: Summons Availability :boom:
Or: Where can I get this Hero From?
Past HotM are available from a number of locations depending on their age.

As Thoth-Amun has been released for >24 months, he can ONLY be summoned in the Tavern of Legends Portal.
He can also be “Trained” using the Hero Academy Level 10.

Tavern of Legends
HotM’s which are >12 months of age are added to the summons pool in the Tavern of Legends Portal.

Hero Academy Level 10 Retraining
HotM’s which are >12 months of age are also added as a possible outcome of Hero Academy Level 10 Retraining.

More information on HA10 Retraining here: 🤓 Hero Academy! FAQ, Links, Guides and Discussion


:money_with_wings: Avoiding Overspending & Heartache :broken_heart:
Or: How many summons are needed to get an old HotM?
Below Maths is current as of September 2020.
Subject to change as additional heroes are added to the Portal.

It’s important to remember that the Tavern of Legends Portal has the lowest odds for a specific hero of ANY portal… No amount of summoning will guarantee a Featured Hero.

You have a 0.25% chance of summoning a specific Featured Past HotM from the Tavern of Legends Portal (0.0125% for a specific Non-Featured).

On average, in a 10-pull, you have a 2.47% chance of summoning a particular Featured Past HotM (0.12% chance for a specific Non-Featured & 12.27% chance for ANY Past HotM).

But that statistic can lead our minds astray in exactly how our odds play out as we continue summoning.

Some useful insights:

(Each 30x Summons costs 8,000 gems or ~$79.99 USD).

# of Summons ~ USD Cost
pre-tax
Odds for Specific Featured Past HotM Odds for Non-Featured Past HotM
10 $26.00 2.47% 0.13%
30 $74.99 7.23% 0.03%
100 $250.98 22.14% 1.24%
500 $1,251.88 71.39% 6.06%
1,500 $3,749.63 97.66% 17.10%
5,000 $12,500.75 99.9996% 46.48%
10,000 $24,998.50 99.9999999986% 71.35%

Putting that in Perspective

If 100 people were to complete 100x summons, spending ~$250 USD:

  • 27 WON’T get ANY Past HotM
  • 78 WON’T get a specific Featured Past HotM
  • 99 WON’T get a specific Non-Featured Past HotM

If 100 people were to conduct 1500x summons, spending ~$3,750 USD:

  • 1 WON’T get ANY Past HotM
  • 23 WON’T get a specific Featured Past HotM
  • 83 WON’T geta a specific Non-Featured Past HotM

If 1 Million players each completed 10,000 summons, spending ~$25,000 USD:

  • 1 WON’T get ANY Past HotM
  • 1 WON’T get a specific Featured Past HotM
  • 286,500 WON’T geta a specific Non-Featured Past HotM

More Insights & Reading

I highly recommend reading these two threads for more information and context on summoning odds:

If you’ve read them a million times before, you may consider reading them again before deciding on your budget for summoning. A little time spent deciding on how much money you want to risk on summoning goes a long way to avoiding disappointment, frustration, and regret later. :slight_smile:


:link: Related Threads

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Feedback Poll - Thoth-Amun (post release)

:question: Is Thoth-Amun worth Summoning For?

NOTE, you can currently only get Thoth-Amun from the Tavern of Legends or HA10.

  • Yes, absolutely
  • Only if you’re P2P
  • Only if you’re summoning for someone else
  • Not really
  • Not at all

0 voters


:question: How many copies of Thoth-Amun would be useful to keep & Level?

Note - this is roster space dependent & isn’t the same for everyone!

  • zero
  • Just one
  • 2
  • 3
  • All of them

0 voters


:question: What do you think Thoth-Amun’s Primary Purpose is?

  • Primary Damage Dealer (Sniper)
  • Support Damage Dealer
  • Self Minion Maker

0 voters


:question: What do you think of Thoth-Amun compared to other Heroes?

  • Over Powered (OP)
  • Little stronger than Most
  • On Par with Most
  • Little Weaker than Most
  • Completely Broken (Under Powered)

0 voters


:question: How does Thoth-Amun’s Special Skill and Intended Purpose match his Base Stats?

Note this means his Class, Attack, Defence & HP Stat

  • Perfectly
  • Better than Most
  • On Par with Most
  • Worse than Most
  • Terribly

0 voters


:question: Is Thoth-Amun worth giving Sorcerer Emblems to?

  • Yes absolutely
  • Depends on who else you got
  • Hmmmm, not sure yet
  • No, I don’t think so
  • No… Not at all.

0 voters


:question: In Defence, where do you think Thoth-Amun is best used?

  • Left Wing
  • Left Flank
  • Tank
  • Right Flank
  • Right Wing
  • Not on defence at all.

0 voters


:question: How do you think Thoth-Amun is best used?

  • PvP Raids/ War attack
  • Normal Defence
  • War Defence
  • Titans
  • Farming
  • Tournaments
  • Event Teams

0 voters

Is he worth leveling now ? :thinking:

That + his new family bonus + new elemental link… He definitely gained a lot these days.

He definitely isn’t terrible and worst HotM anymore. I don’t think I would give Tabards to newly obtained Thoth-Amun; but if I already had one ascended, I’d probably consider giving him emblems and recall from retirement…

3 Likes

I might have squeezed the trigger if they gave him minions to all. Still sitting at 3/70 :frowning:

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Its stats still sucks and 235% is not impressive. Still not worth the mats imo.

Low bar to clear

I agree

Elemental rainbow link

Depending on your roster, new Elemental rainbow link can be an effective buff, other times it can be a effective debuff ( see notes )

Similar to Ranvir+ Miki

Repost, Buff discussion

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Notes

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Elemental rainbow links

Poor game design but not much options due to legacy Elemental link design

Negative Stacking

FIN

Thoth Fun!

Thoth, with the most recent buff, generates minions for caster and nearby

This is helpful since 3x minions per special skill trigger means at least 1x minion likely to survive to harass low HP corner enemies ( looking at you Revived fighters with 1 HP and the last Undead privateer in an Atlantis Rising stage )

Thoth now has a Family based +5% mana bonus ( without any other family members ) and if active +10% mana bonus from Elemental link

in addition to already having fast mana speed and damage to target and nearby

Thoth is a now a lot of fun!

I am using Thoth 5* 3.70 on my default raid attack team and Season 1 farming ( see notes )

Thoth 5* 3.70

I am still leaving Thoth at 5* 3.70

With my roster, Thoth is definitely not worth 4* ascension items, emblems and aethers

But leveling Thoth to 5* 2.60 is now worth it for many rosters

Leveling Thoth to 5* 3.70 is most likely worth it ( depends on individual 4* 4.70 roster, non farmable ascension item inventory, Food, Hero XP, play style, etc. )

Notes

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Raid attack

Current default raid attack team

base Grimm 4*+18
Thoth 5* 3.70
Frida 5*+1
base Rigard 4*+18
base Melendor 4*+18

Thoth’s minions are fun against reviving heroes especially if you can get a full set of 3x 3 minions going

Also go against corner healers when waiting for direct attack

Core 4* heroes

Rigard, and Melendor, are core 4* heroes in my roster, so they will get aethers, along with Wu Kong and Boldtusk / Wilbur ( still trying to find best Red 4* hero for Limit breaker quests - use aethers to get aethers )

Map Season 1 farming

Doing a lot of auto play on Map Season 1 for Fire Wanted Mission ( rare chest ) and various research projects

FIN

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With updated Academy ( added old Challenge event heroes ), some players will need 3* farmable ascension items

1.12-9 is only 4 WE, so decent monster / recruits per WE and first Map Season 1 Province with 3* farmable ascension items

May I know which update you refer ??

Hero Academy update I guess, where they added event 3 start and event 4 stars (from old events)

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Any further points since the buff? I don’t have him but an alliance mate put him on his defence team and I have to say he is quite impressive

If you have the first gen hotms like hel, Athena, Ares, musashi or Alberich, you can stack Thoth with the bonus because it’s different E-links

2 Likes

I have updated the hero card with 2022 September balance updates.

5 Likes

Got him from HA10 a month ago. At first I was going to trade him in SE but then I thought about his family mana boost and his element mana buff. I have Musashi (kind of useless on his own) but combined with Thoth. Thoth would have +10 Mana (Family). Then +10 from elemental buff (after first skill use) then +4 from Emblems and + 11% mana from Cyclops Troop. Total = 35%!! That means he fires in 6 tiles like vfast! 280% dmg to 3 + decent hp minions to 3 is pretty good for Vfast.

Also makes Musashi vFast if he has 13% troops.

Not OP but very useable.

2 Likes

i agree with the above analysis and this is my thought on thoth & FS4

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